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Old 07-13-2021, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BrickTamblin View Post
3/31 class here…just got the email yesterday for scheduling drug/fingerprinting
anyone from the group of CJO holders still waiting for email to schedule fingerprinting?

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Old 07-13-2021, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuko View Post
anyone from the group of CJO holders still waiting for email to schedule fingerprinting?

Still waiting
Im from canceled April 14th class, got email to schedule fingerprints last Friday. Today another email to fill out background check info..
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Old 07-13-2021, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ItwillBuffout View Post
Im from canceled April 14th class, got email to schedule fingerprints last Friday. Today another email to fill out background check info..

Mind if I ask who the email was from? The previous email said it would be from an email other than “AA Pilot Recruitment”. Don’t want to miss it when it shows up in my inbox!


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Old 07-15-2021, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy View Post
Yeah let's ask the recently furloughed pilots to do things for free.... Riiiight.

This is not necessarily a request from
“the company,” but a request from the director of pilot hiring (a fellow pilot) to ensure that we (the pilots) have a say in the pilot screening process. If one needs to “get paid” to do something that betters their own pilot group, then so be it. But they shouldn’t then complain when they aren’t happy with the quality or proficiency of the dude/gal sitting next to them.


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Old 07-15-2021, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCv22 View Post
This is not necessarily a request from
“the company,” but a request from the director of pilot hiring (a fellow pilot) to ensure that we (the pilots) have a say in the pilot screening process. If one needs to “get paid” to do something that betters their own pilot group, then so be it. But they shouldn’t then complain when they aren’t happy with the quality or proficiency of the dude/gal sitting next to them.
Assuming half of new hire pilots comes from flow program and excluding friends & family (including military friends), minorities and politically correct fulfillments. I wonder how many candidates really gets screened by AA recruitment.
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Old 07-15-2021, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MEFLIGHT View Post
Assuming half of new hire pilots comes from flow program and excluding friends & family (including military friends), minorities and politically correct fulfillments. I wonder how many candidates really gets screened by AA recruitment.

Im assuming it would be the total number of candidates minus flows. Or using your statement above as a reference, exactly half. I’d be shocked if there is some “secret process” that allows any OTS candidate to bypass the screening process….that would be a pretty egregious violation of all kinds of HR laws and liabilities.


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Old 07-16-2021, 06:17 AM
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I have no doubt all new hire are qualified pilots, but if recruitment especially select pilots based on referrals, race, gender or etc; how many 'the best of the best' really gets screened?

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Old 07-16-2021, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MEFLIGHT View Post
I have no doubt all new hire are qualified pilots, but if recruitment especially select pilots based on referrals, race, gender or etc; how many 'the best of the best' really gets screened?
While I think flow is great for regional new hires, it has been doing a huge disservice to OTS folks. AA does not interview or screen anyone that woke for these regional flows. All it seems you need is a pulse to get hired on at one of these flowing regionals. Yet OTS folks have extreme screening requirements.. almost impossible to get a call even with 10 times the variety and value of qualifications.
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Old 07-16-2021, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mukalel View Post
While I think flow is great for regional new hires, it has been doing a huge disservice to OTS folks. AA does not interview or screen anyone that woke for these regional flows. All it seems you need is a pulse to get hired on at one of these flowing regionals. Yet OTS folks have extreme screening requirements.. almost impossible to get a call even with 10 times the variety and value of qualifications.
The flow isn’t really great for new hires at the American wholly owned regionals. It’s not even a carrot at this point because the percentage of flows relative to the size of the wholly owned regionals makes it a non-factor. And honestly we’re seeing new-hires with 1500-2500 hours, plus military fixed wing and helo guys, and the occasional 91/135 or prior 121 experience. Covid paused a lot so it allowed pilots to build experience. The flow is silly in and of itself. It would be my wish that the legacies would resorb the 76 seat flying.
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mukalel View Post
While I think flow is great for regional new hires, it has been doing a huge disservice to OTS folks. AA does not interview or screen anyone that woke for these regional flows. All it seems you need is a pulse to get hired on at one of these flowing regionals. Yet OTS folks have extreme screening requirements.. almost impossible to get a call even with 10 times the variety and value of qualifications.
The flow agreement actually says they have to meet all of AA’s new hire requirements, and it says AA can change the new hire requirements.

If AA required 6,000TPIC for all new hires they would have to have 6,000TPIC to flow.

If AA said all new hires have to have a perfect training record, all the flow pilots would have to have a perfect training record to flow.

The agreement only exempts the requirement of a college degree, and an interview. Any other requirement AA places on new hires is also mandatory for flow pilots.

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