Negotiation Update
09-16-2022 | 01:09 PM
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The sad part is that when ALPA National and the WO MEC Chairmen met with Ferguson and Patrick this was pointed out as a possible outcome of not working with them on a plan to give WO pilots seniority numbers and eventually absorb the regional flying.
2 things fixed the problems with regional attrition. One was seniority, the other was pay. Absorbing the WOs pilots (or maybe just the Captains) would have increased APAs bargaining power and created a solution where American’s money could be spent more on APA pilots. But it was bad timing being an APA election year etc. All the same… ALPA National and the WO MECs warned APA that this was a possible outcome and here we are. The industry pay is likely to remain upside down for a couple years because APA didn’t want to entertain talk of seniority numbers to the unwashed regional pilots flying their passengers.
2 things fixed the problems with regional attrition. One was seniority, the other was pay. Absorbing the WOs pilots (or maybe just the Captains) would have increased APAs bargaining power and created a solution where American’s money could be spent more on APA pilots. But it was bad timing being an APA election year etc. All the same… ALPA National and the WO MECs warned APA that this was a possible outcome and here we are. The industry pay is likely to remain upside down for a couple years because APA didn’t want to entertain talk of seniority numbers to the unwashed regional pilots flying their passengers.
09-16-2022 | 01:24 PM
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Management is grossly over estimating their position here. The “that’s the way we always did it” crowd is retiring to the tune 800+/year. You know who’s replacing them? That’s right, the guys and gals that are used to getting triple pay and a 150K bonus for accepting a job they didn’t even have to interview for. What do you think their expectations for a TA will be? 10/5/3? Laughable. These guys don’t get out of bed for less the 2x premium and a nice fat bonus. The longer this drags out, the more flows come to mainline, and the higher inflation gets. It’s not going to get cheaper for AA. Quite the contrary. I say file for mediation and let the lengthy multi-year process begin.
09-16-2022 | 01:31 PM
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But hey, keep viewing the industry through whatever lease you and APA are viewing it through. Seems to be working out really well.
09-16-2022 | 01:37 PM
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09-16-2022 | 02:04 PM
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09-16-2022 | 02:08 PM
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Astute observation. Pilots at ALL 3 legacies should now be fully aware of the importance of absorbing their regional feed and having all of that flying done on a single seniority list. The direct result for APA would have been the $1.75B being spent on just the 3 AA WOs being spread across all of APA. The indirect result would be increased bargaining power. Either way it’s win win for APA pilots current and future. Literally 0 downside.
But hey, keep viewing the industry through whatever lease you and APA are viewing it through. Seems to be working out really well.
But hey, keep viewing the industry through whatever lease you and APA are viewing it through. Seems to be working out really well.
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