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ImSoSuss 04-12-2023 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mando0530 (Post 3623086)
Are these in order of seniority? ie the 30 youngest people in the class got lga320d?

No, but bidding is done by oldest to youngest. I would not expect to see DCA below 50.

SonicBoom 04-12-2023 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Fly76 (Post 3623048)
Lga 737 i - 5
mia 737 i - 5
lga 737 d - 8
dca 320 i - 2
mia 320 i - 3
lga 320 d - 30

Wow! No PHL!? That's bs :mad:

Beech Dude 04-12-2023 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by renatodep (Post 3623124)
Wow! No PHL!? That's bs :mad:

There are 400+ FOs in PHL. The 6 mos planning #, last I saw, has been floating around 346 or 347. The pattern seems to be to get fat in prep for the next vacancy. They'll have 30 or 40ish bid out and then the new hire tap will get opened again.

EUhoppa 04-13-2023 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3623091)
No, but bidding is done by oldest to youngest. I would not expect to see DCA below 50.

Why is that?

motojet 04-13-2023 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by EUhoppa (Post 3623451)
Why is that?

At least for the last six months that I have been here, DCA has usually only had 2-3 slots available per class so they tend to get picked relatively early. Although sometimes there are more slots. For example in my Indoc class there were 6 DCA Airbus available and the last one was picked up by a pilot in his 20's. So you never know. But even if you don't get DCA in class it will easily be available on your first vacancy bid.

Zerosilver84 04-13-2023 07:30 AM

I got DCA (my 2nd option as phl went faster than I thought) and I'm 38 and was bidding #16 in my NH class for bases.

RippinClapBombs 04-13-2023 07:34 AM

On average how many new hires per class?

pitchattitude 04-13-2023 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3623476)
On average how many new hires per class?

Usually 45-50. Class drop aircraft and bases is equal to the number in each class so you can go back and count the last several classes.

CRJJ 04-13-2023 08:40 AM

53 in last class? Damn, those are big numbers if it’s one class every week.

Fly76 04-13-2023 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3623525)
53 in last class? Damn, those are big numbers if it’s one class every week.

Think they plan on 2000+ hires in 2023

RippinClapBombs 04-13-2023 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3623518)
Usually 45-50. Class drop aircraft and bases is equal to the number in each class so you can go back and count the last several classes.

Sweet, thank you! Any guidance to prior INDOC study material? I found some random Quizlet flashcards but not sure on their recency.

Fly76 04-13-2023 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3623560)
Sweet, thank you! Any guidance to prior INDOC study material? I found some random Quizlet flashcards but not sure on their recency.

Nothing to study. Test in the end has a answer sheet that people usually pass around and they practically check to see you have it all correct before you submit so basically everyone in class gets 100%

ImSoSuss 04-13-2023 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by EUhoppa (Post 3623451)
Why is that?

2 slots

filler

AAL24 04-14-2023 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3623560)
Sweet, thank you! Any guidance to prior INDOC study material? I found some random Quizlet flashcards but not sure on their recency.

Training at American will be the easiest training you ever do. It’s a very relaxed environment. Even your systems test will be open book. Enjoy the process, there are no gotchas.

AAL24 04-14-2023 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by AAL24 (Post 3624059)
Training at American will be the easiest training you ever do. It’s a very relaxed environment. Even your systems test will be open book. Enjoy the process, there are no gotchas.

"easiest" was probably the wrong word as the program obviously requires a lot of preparation and work. But there are no surprises and the instructors will do their best to make sure you are prepared. AA has a great training program.

Fly76 04-14-2023 12:25 PM

4/19 Drop
 
Lga 737 i - 4
mia 737 i - 5
bos 737 d - 3
lax 737 d - 3
lga 737 d - 13
mia 320 i - 2
lga 320 d - 23

pitchattitude 04-14-2023 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Fly76 (Post 3624257)
Lga 737 i - 4
mia 737 i - 5
bos 737 d - 3
lax 737 d - 3
lga 737 d - 13
mia 320 i - 2
lga 320 d - 23

The LAX and BOS are an interesting twist.

saganist 04-14-2023 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Fly76 (Post 3624257)
Lga 737 i - 4
mia 737 i - 5
bos 737 d - 3
lax 737 d - 3
lga 737 d - 13
mia 320 i - 2
lga 320 d - 23

Am I correct in thinking that I could be LGA based (thinking 320, FWIW), then consistently bid for trips that begin and end in JFK (which is a much better commute for me from Austin)? Never worked somewhere with co-domiciles before.

TIA

JulesWinfield 04-14-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by saganist (Post 3624395)
Am I correct in thinking that I could be LGA based (thinking 320, FWIW), then consistently bid for trips that begin and end in JFK (which is a much better commute for me from Austin)? Never worked somewhere with co-domiciles before.

TIA

Yes, once your seniority can hold it.

saganist 04-14-2023 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3624403)
Yes, once your seniority can hold it.

Great, thank you.

ImSoSuss 04-15-2023 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by saganist (Post 3624395)
Am I correct in thinking that I could be LGA based (thinking 320, FWIW), then consistently bid for trips that begin and end in JFK (which is a much better commute for me from Austin)? Never worked somewhere with co-domiciles before.

TIA

Also makes a big difference between LGA D or I. You want JFK, definitely bid 737 I

saganist 04-15-2023 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3624598)
Also makes a big difference between LGA D or I. You want JFK, definitely bid 737 I

Oh, okay. And could I also do a lot of JFK on the 320? (Just finished getting that type, and I actually like the plane a lot, but maybe I shouldn't be too attached to it.)

ImSoSuss 04-15-2023 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by saganist (Post 3624614)
Oh, okay. And could I also do a lot of JFK on the 320? (Just finished getting that type, and I actually like the plane a lot, but maybe I shouldn't be too attached to it.)

As a former 320 guy now on the 737, do yourself a favor and stay on the Airbus. I am not sure how the Airbus is distributed in New York.

AllYourBaseAreB 04-15-2023 10:30 AM

Plenty of 320 flying in Jfk

saganist 04-15-2023 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3624674)
Plenty of 320 flying in Jfk

Nice, thank you.

saganist 04-15-2023 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3624619)
As a former 320 guy now on the 737, do yourself a favor and stay on the Airbus. I am not sure how the Airbus is distributed in New York.

Glad to hear I'm not crazy, thank you.

GrumpyBear 04-15-2023 11:15 AM

Got my CJO on March 28th. Aiming to get the Airbus (47 years old). LAX is my base of choice. Until very recently LAX hasn't been offered. I did see though that the latest class drop had 3 LAX 737 slots. Looking to start INDOC in July.

So...my question is, should there be LAX slots for my class, should I take it even though it may be for the 737 OR choose the Airbus for a different domicile knowing that I'll get LAX eventually.

I have guys in my Reserve unit that fly the Bus and love it. I've also spoken to guys that have flown both the 737 and the Bus and prefer the Bus hands down. Thoughts?

Beech Dude 04-15-2023 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by GrumpyBear (Post 3624690)
Got my CJO on March 28th. Aiming to get the Airbus (47 years old). LAX is my base of choice. Until very recently LAX hasn't been offered. I did see though that the latest class drop had 3 LAX 737 slots. Looking to start INDOC in July.

So...my question is, should there be LAX slots for my class, should I take it even though it may be for the 737 OR choose the Airbus for a different domicile knowing that I'll get LAX eventually.

I have guys in my Reserve unit that fly the Bus and love it. I've also spoken to guys that have flown both the 737 and the Bus and prefer the Bus hands down. Thoughts?

Bid the Bus. Do not even consider the 73. You'll be senior enough to grab a 320. If LAX isn't in your drop, no sweat. Take it to any base, or one you won't mind being in for a few months. You'll bid to LAX in your first vacancy on property while you're in training. You'll be made in the shade in LAX on the Bus in less than 6 months. CongrAAts and welcome.

GrumpyBear 04-15-2023 12:18 PM

Beech Dude:

Thank you for the insight! I can't wait to start.

CRJdriver2017 04-15-2023 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3624619)
As a former 320 guy now on the 737, do yourself a favor and stay on the Airbus. I am not sure how the Airbus is distributed in New York.

Curious about your statement here. I’m a new hire on the A320 and haven’t began groundschool yet. I’m already typed on the bus so hopefully training is a little easier. I do consider the 737 but the seat lock thing is bothersome. I hear the 737 flying is better overall. Why do you suggest one stay put on the bus?

ObiOne 04-15-2023 03:43 PM

Is domestic vs international part of the initial six month seat lock? In other words, if one gets LGA 737 D in the initial award, would it then be impossible to get MIA until the seat lock is up since it's all international?

dsevo 04-15-2023 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by ObiOne (Post 3624767)
Is domestic vs international part of the initial six month seat lock? In other words, if one gets LGA 737 D in the initial award, would it then be impossible to get MIA until the seat lock is up since it's all international?

No, that does not factor in the seat lock.

ImSoSuss 04-15-2023 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3624761)
Curious about your statement here. I’m a new hire on the A320 and haven’t began groundschool yet. I’m already typed on the bus so hopefully training is a little easier. I do consider the 737 but the seat lock thing is bothersome. I hear the 737 flying is better overall. Why do you suggest one stay put on the bus?

Base first, airplane second. Destinations come and go. If you are already comfortable in an Airbus than I would stick with it. There is no room in that 737 cockpit and doing those 6 hour flights from JFK to Cali can be a real pain.

CRJJ 04-15-2023 05:00 PM

I’ve flown 737 before and even tho I don’t have anything agains it…99% of the people keep recommending the Airbus, so there must be a good reason for that :)

rolo 04-16-2023 10:16 AM

My drop email mentioned that you bid by seniority, do they mean age? I’m 36 and I really want that bus.

Fly76 04-16-2023 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by rolo (Post 3625015)
My drop email mentioned that you bid by seniority, do they mean age? I’m 36 and I really want that bus.

By age. You’ll get the bus 100%

rolo 04-16-2023 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Fly76 (Post 3625018)
By age. You’ll get the bus 100%

That’s great news!

SonicBoom 04-16-2023 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3623287)
There are 400+ FOs in PHL. The 6 mos planning #, last I saw, has been floating around 346 or 347. The pattern seems to be to get fat in prep for the next vacancy. They'll have 30 or 40ish bid out and then the new hire tap will get opened again.

I know, I'm PHL based. I just want more people under me. No pun intend lol.

Zerosilver84 04-16-2023 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by renatodep (Post 3625145)
I know, I'm PHL based. I just want more people under me. No pun intend lol.

Well I'm moving to phl in July so lol

MEFLIGHT 04-16-2023 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Fly76 (Post 3625018)
By age. You’ll get the bus 100%

If you've been here long enough, you'll know nothing is 100% guaranteed.


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