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Old 05-22-2023, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
What are ODANs? Are they also called lean overs... stand ups... short layovers a lot less than 8 hours?
On duty overnight, like stand up
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:52 AM
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There’s a big difference between “ODANs” and the proposed Split Duty Overnight trips as proposed in this AIP. I don’t expect either the “this sucks vote NO!!!!!” or “this is the best we could do recession tomorrow sky is falling!!!” crowds to acknowledge the difference, though.
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Any word on timing of release of proposed contract, and voting timelines?
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Old 05-22-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Any word on timing of release of proposed contract, and voting timelines?
None thus far
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Old 05-22-2023, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Any word on timing of release of proposed contract, and voting timelines?
Once language is complete it goes to the board. The earliest they can vote on it would be 7 days after that. Probably 30 days of road shows and a 30 day voting period. August 1 is the date in their mind for completion
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Old 05-22-2023, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
Once language is complete it goes to the board. The earliest they can vote on it would be 7 days after that. Probably 30 days of road shows and a 30 day voting period. August 1 is the date in their mind for completion
If the rumors are true on pay, they probably ought to shorten it like Delta did, otherwise they are taking money out of the pilots pockets.
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Old 05-22-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Race Bannon
If the rumors are true on pay, they probably ought to shorten it like Delta did, otherwise they are taking money out of the pilots pockets.
there’s no rumors on pay. It’s established 21/5/4/4/3.

they are also doing 21% for 3 months prior to signing so technically May 2nd effective date on back pay and you don’t loose money during this process.

the question is will there be any retro from Jan 1st 23 to May 2nd.
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Old 05-22-2023, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly76
there’s no rumors on pay. It’s established 21/5/4/4/3.

they are also doing 21% for 3 months prior to signing so technically May 2nd effective date on back pay and you don’t loose money during this process.

the question is will there be any retro from Jan 1st 23 to May 2nd.
There is no question, it has been confirmed no retro for 1/23-4/23. They sold it for May pay raises.
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Old 05-22-2023, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
You know you get paid when you call in sick right?
Of course, but how many days can you call out sick before you start getting phone calls from your Chief? Some companies are naturally more strict about it than others. I personally prefer to not skirt that line of having to have conversations with my Chief about why I called out, all because it's impossible to drop trips.
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Old 05-22-2023, 02:14 PM
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Three days in, Delta's AIP thread back in December was at 40+ pages. Ours is at four. It's oddly quiet in here.
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