June 2026 Vacancy
01-10-2026 | 10:19 AM
#151
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Joined: Jan 2018
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I used to be indifferent, but we’ve taken too many Ls the last couple of years. Lost the jumpseat provision we negotiated, bent over on past practice for 3b removals, etc. Not only is the contract language ambiguous, they don’t have the stomach to enforce it.
01-10-2026 | 11:43 AM
#152
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Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,434
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From: Window seat
"Your leg? I walk." Some FO's wouldn't allow it - "you're a w/b Captain. You are NOT doing the walk-around." It wasn't worth fighting over but it would have made worldwide headlines - CA and FO come to blows over who will do the walk-around. FO refused to allow Captain outside...
Professional Standards would have been stunned - "is this an April Fools joke? Am I being pranked?"
Professional Standards would have been stunned - "is this an April Fools joke? Am I being pranked?"
01-10-2026 | 01:27 PM
#153
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Joined: Jan 2014
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Also the alpa APA merger will fail because of the gustin amendment. So in effect it's a waste of money at this point and is just for show. "We tried, you guys didn't vote enough for it" see you in 25 years. I'm the mean time we continue to take Ls and ride Delta and United coattails. Couldn't even slide a no single pilot ops clause into the CBA.
I almost guarantee APA tries to sell us some kind of concessionary agreement this time around. "We asked they said no"
01-10-2026 | 01:29 PM
#154
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Joined: Dec 2011
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From: A320 FO
Don't forget this Alaska scope I am sure we're about to take a massive L on.
Also the alpa APA merger will fail because of the gustin amendment. So in effect it's a waste of money at this point and is just for show. "We tried, you guys didn't vote enough for it" see you in 25 years. I'm the mean time we continue to take Ls and ride Delta and United coattails. Couldn't even slide a no single pilot ops clause into the CBA.
I almost guarantee APA tries to sell us some kind of concessionary agreement this time around. "We asked they said no"
Also the alpa APA merger will fail because of the gustin amendment. So in effect it's a waste of money at this point and is just for show. "We tried, you guys didn't vote enough for it" see you in 25 years. I'm the mean time we continue to take Ls and ride Delta and United coattails. Couldn't even slide a no single pilot ops clause into the CBA.
I almost guarantee APA tries to sell us some kind of concessionary agreement this time around. "We asked they said no"
01-10-2026 | 01:30 PM
#155
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Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,659
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Don't forget this Alaska scope I am sure we're about to take a massive L on.
Also the alpa APA merger will fail because of the gustin amendment. So in effect it's a waste of money at this point and is just for show. "We tried, you guys didn't vote enough for it" see you in 25 years. I'm the mean time we continue to take Ls and ride Delta and United coattails. Couldn't even slide a no single pilot ops clause into the CBA.
I almost guarantee APA tries to sell us some kind of concessionary agreement this time around. "We asked they said no"
Also the alpa APA merger will fail because of the gustin amendment. So in effect it's a waste of money at this point and is just for show. "We tried, you guys didn't vote enough for it" see you in 25 years. I'm the mean time we continue to take Ls and ride Delta and United coattails. Couldn't even slide a no single pilot ops clause into the CBA.
I almost guarantee APA tries to sell us some kind of concessionary agreement this time around. "We asked they said no"
Take your surveys!
01-10-2026 | 05:19 PM
#156
On Reserve
Joined: Aug 2022
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The Agustin Amendment is meant to say, essentially:
“Even inside a merged union, each airline’s pilots keep control over their own contract, negotiations, and strike authority.”
Please explain. Why is this bad for AA pilots? Or is it an amendment that ALPA is against?
“Even inside a merged union, each airline’s pilots keep control over their own contract, negotiations, and strike authority.”
Please explain. Why is this bad for AA pilots? Or is it an amendment that ALPA is against?
01-10-2026 | 05:53 PM
#157
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Joined: Dec 2017
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That’s not what the "Gustin" amendment does at all. Not even in the same zip code.
Typical AA pilot... Being this out of touch at this point is inexcusable, and frankly exasperating.
01-11-2026 | 06:11 AM
#159
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When only ~10% of pilots bothered voting for changes to constitution bylaws,one can easily see how the Gustin amendment will serve APA's agenda of not merging with ALPA.
01-11-2026 | 08:09 AM
#160
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Joined: Dec 2019
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The Gustin Amendment counts all non-voters as automatic "no" votes. It's the most absurd, corrupt, antidemocratic thing I've ever seen from a pilot union. Imagine if that's how congress was elected? We would never see any turnover.
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