June 2026 Vacancy
#161
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2014
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It's the GUSTIN Amendment, and holy **** if you're an AA pilot and you're this disengaged, I'm truly concerned for all of us.
The Gustin Amendment counts all non-voters as automatic "no" votes. It's the most absurd, corrupt, antidemocratic thing I've ever seen from a pilot union. Imagine if that's how congress was elected? We would never see any turnover.
The Gustin Amendment counts all non-voters as automatic "no" votes. It's the most absurd, corrupt, antidemocratic thing I've ever seen from a pilot union. Imagine if that's how congress was elected? We would never see any turnover.
#162
That/It/Thang
Joined: Aug 2020
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I like the PHX reps take on the dues holiday and maybe another angle on why we were given it:
“We believe that the impetus for the APA-ALPA dues holiday was the 2023 ALPA Exploratory Report’s finding that, over the preceding 23-year period, AA pilots had effectively paid a 1.3% dues rate.
Our view is that one purpose of the APA-ALPA Merger Dues Holiday is to “reset” this comparison so that any merger with ALPA will appear to be a substantial dues increase for AA pilots.“
I 100% believe this after seeing the Gustin amendment and the number of reps ok counting “non votes” as essentially a no vote. The 25 year thing also just blows my mind.
“We believe that the impetus for the APA-ALPA dues holiday was the 2023 ALPA Exploratory Report’s finding that, over the preceding 23-year period, AA pilots had effectively paid a 1.3% dues rate.
Our view is that one purpose of the APA-ALPA Merger Dues Holiday is to “reset” this comparison so that any merger with ALPA will appear to be a substantial dues increase for AA pilots.“
I 100% believe this after seeing the Gustin amendment and the number of reps ok counting “non votes” as essentially a no vote. The 25 year thing also just blows my mind.
#163
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 159
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Not DFW based, but I've been reading the usual election season hit pieces, and it says that Gustin is now an Airbus IP?
Taking a training department position when they just announced the company has no plan to implement the LCP program is beyond tone deaf.
Taking a training department position when they just announced the company has no plan to implement the LCP program is beyond tone deaf.
#164
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 447
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Exactly. We should all be tired of self-serving people taking Union positions to boost their own earnings and quality of life.
#165
#166
That amendment is an insult to intelligence. And the problem is not having such an amendment, the problem is HOW THE F*CK did that ever get approved or passed. Rest of union members saw it and thought oh ok, sure!.?
#167
That/It/Thang
Joined: Aug 2020
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So ask yourself, why are 70% of the reps not even willing to let the pilots vote to decide if they want to keep the 25 year rule and vote counting procedure in place?
#168
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2014
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Even more corrupt is the PHX reps proposed 2 amendments to allow the pilots to vote on the 25 year and on the way votes will be tallied, letting the pilots decide if we should amend the bylaws. These required 2/3 approval just to GET IT TO the pilots to vote; both failed to even meet 50%, no less 2/3rd.
So ask yourself, why are 70% of the reps not even willing to let the pilots vote to decide if they want to keep the 25 year rule and vote counting procedure in place?
So ask yourself, why are 70% of the reps not even willing to let the pilots vote to decide if they want to keep the 25 year rule and vote counting procedure in place?
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