USAPA Board Approves MOU
01-11-2013, 12:11 PM
#232
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
Does anybody have an idea about what the hold up is? Clues, suggestions, thoughts, rumors....Bueler ...Bueler...??
01-11-2013, 06:54 PM
#236
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,240
Hey look, the east is at it again.
January 11, 2013
To: Bill McKee, Steve Crimi, DeWitt Ingram CLT Base Representatives
Gentlemen,
We have received your messages concerning the Non-Disclosure Agreement.
This letter is to notify you that you do not have any right to unilaterally terminate or violate the Non-Disclosure Agreement. The NDA was executed after consultation with the members of the BPR, you among them. It was necessary for USAPA to agree to the NDA in order to participate in the discussions and negotiations that led to the MOU which the BPR approved. The NDA is in the meaning of the NDA.
The USAPA General Counsel has informed me that any action by you or anyone else bound by , will subject USAPA to substantial liability and could result in the revocation of the MOU which was reached under its terms. Furthermore, our organization will not tolerate any attempt to be taken hostage by your actions, threats and demands.
I take our responsibility under the NDA seriously and will take whatever steps are necessary to protect the interests of the Union and our members and to insure that this Union does not violate the NDA. I trust that this letter is perfectly clear that you are required to continue to hold all matters covered by the NDA strictly confidential unless and until the NDA is lifted by the mutual agreement of US Airways, American Airlines, the UCC and USAPA. I must inform you that any action such as described in your emails to the USAPA Secretary/Treasurer on January 9, 2013, would be an intentional breech of your fiduciary duty to this Union and you will be held fully responsible for your actions.
Sincerely,
Gary Hummel President
To: Bill McKee, Steve Crimi, DeWitt Ingram CLT Base Representatives
Gentlemen,
We have received your messages concerning the Non-Disclosure Agreement.
This letter is to notify you that you do not have any right to unilaterally terminate or violate the Non-Disclosure Agreement. The NDA was executed after consultation with the members of the BPR, you among them. It was necessary for USAPA to agree to the NDA in order to participate in the discussions and negotiations that led to the MOU which the BPR approved. The NDA is in the meaning of the NDA.
The USAPA General Counsel has informed me that any action by you or anyone else bound by , will subject USAPA to substantial liability and could result in the revocation of the MOU which was reached under its terms. Furthermore, our organization will not tolerate any attempt to be taken hostage by your actions, threats and demands.
I take our responsibility under the NDA seriously and will take whatever steps are necessary to protect the interests of the Union and our members and to insure that this Union does not violate the NDA. I trust that this letter is perfectly clear that you are required to continue to hold all matters covered by the NDA strictly confidential unless and until the NDA is lifted by the mutual agreement of US Airways, American Airlines, the UCC and USAPA. I must inform you that any action such as described in your emails to the USAPA Secretary/Treasurer on January 9, 2013, would be an intentional breech of your fiduciary duty to this Union and you will be held fully responsible for your actions.
Sincerely,
Gary Hummel President
01-12-2013, 12:05 AM
#237
Flies With The Hat On
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Right of the Left Seat
Posts: 1,339
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
After trying to read through all the east/ west bombardment in this thread, I couldn't seem to find any info on the MOU. Any info on what new hire payrates will be?
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G. Hourly Pay Rates Captain DOS Group I Group II Group III Group IV Group V Year 1 Year 2 $105.47 $155.11 $167.20 $197.04 $206.90 Year 3 $106.33 $156.36 $168.56 $198.64 $208.57 Year 4 $107.18 $157.62 $169.92 $200.24 $210.25 Year 5 $108.04 $158.88 $171.27 $201.84 $211.93 Year 6 $108.89 $160.14 $172.63 $203.43 $213.61 Year 7 $109.75 $161.39 $173.98 $205.03 $215.28 Year 8 $110.60 $162.65 $175.34 $206.63 $216.96 Year 9 $111.46 $163.91 $176.69 $208.23 $218.64 Year 10 $112.31 $165.17 $178.05 $209.82 $220.32 Year 11 $113.17 $166.42 $179.41 $211.42 $221.99 Year 12 $114.02 $167.68 $180.76 $213.02 $223.67 FO DOS Group I Group II Group III Group IV Group V Year 1 Year 2 $52.74 $77.55 $83.60 $98.52 $103.45 Year 3 $63.80 $93.82 $101.14 $119.18 $125.14 Year 4 $65.38 $96.15 $103.65 $122.15 $128.25 Year 5 $66.98 $98.50 $106.19 $125.14 $131.40 Year 6 $68.60 $100.89 $108.75 $128.16 $134.57 Year 7 $70.24 $103.29 $111.35 $131.22 $137.78 Year 8 $71.89 $105.72 $113.97 $134.31 $141.02 Year 9 $74.12 $109.00 $117.50 $138.47 $145.39 Year 10 $75.81 $111.49 $120.18 $141.63 $148.71 Year 11 $76.95 $113.17 $122.00 $143.77 $150.96 Year 12 $77.54 $114.02 $122.92 $144.85 $152.10 Equipment Groups a. Group I: With the exception of aircraft identified in Groups II through V below, any aircraft configured (i.e. as operated by American Airlines) with greater than seventy-nine (79) seats and less than one-hundred-eighteen (118) seats, including E190/195, CRJ-1000, MRJ-100, and Bombardier CS100. b. Group II: Bombardier CS300, A319, A319neo, B737-700, B737-7MAX, MD80, B737-800, B737-8MAX, B737-900, B737-9MAX, A320, A320neo, A321, A321neo c. Group III: B757, B767-200, B767-300, A300 d. Group IV: B767-400, B777-200, B777-200ER, B777-200LR, B777-300, B777-300ER, B787-8, B787-9, B787-10, A332, A333, A340, A350 e. Group V: A380, B747 (all variants) Captains with less than twelve (12) years shall receive pay the hourly rate in accordance with B.1. through 3. above multiplied by the following percentages applicable to their total accredited service with the Company as a pilot: 2nd year 92.50% 3rd year 93.25% 4th year 94.00% 5th year 94.75% 6th year 95.50% 7th year 96.25% 8th year 97.00% 9th year 97.75% 10th year 98.50% 11th year 99.25% 12th year & thereafter 100.00% C. First Officers 1. First year First Officers shall be paid at the day hourly rate of $35.3740.00. 2. Each First Officer who has completed one (1) year of service with the Company as a pilot shall be paid at a rate based on a percentage of Captain pay for the same year of service as follows: Year In which serving 2 50.0% 3 60.0% 4 61.0% 5 62.0% 6 63.0% 7 64.0% 8 65.0% 9 66.5% 10 67.5% 11 68.0% 12 and thereafter 68.0% The percentages above shall be used to calculate hourly pay rates.
I think first year is a flat $50.00.
01-12-2013, 12:58 AM
#238
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 98
Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
AWA wanting to staple junior USAirways F.O.s and take away their attrition based advancement.
And do you feel at all responsible for the condition of east/west pilot relations that will exist long after you are retired?
01-12-2013, 04:36 AM
#239
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,293
Originally Posted by Bringupthebird
No, the arbitrator wanted to staple the furloughed pilots none of whom were ever guaranteed to return to the line. How many bites at the apple do you feel entitled to? What entitles the east to write the conditions and restrictions and remove the west's veto rights in the JCBA?
And do you feel at all responsible for the condition of east/west pilot relations that will exist long after you are retired?
And do you feel at all responsible for the condition of east/west pilot relations that will exist long after you are retired?
According to the law and recent court rulings the union has the rights you question, subject to DFR. Like it or not, USAPA was legally elected. When USAPA was formed most west pilots refused to join. It wasn't until after Susie's day in court when they found out they would have to pay that most decided to join.
You guys(no one that I know of) have always refused to participate in any C&Rs. Recently USAPA sent out a message saying that times have changed and C&R need to be looked at and changed and that they welcomed input. Our attorney's have reached out to AOL and it's attorney's for input and have been told Nic unaltered or we continue the fight. Have you offered any other solutions than that? If not, that's fine, but why complain about it?
01-12-2013, 04:39 AM
#240
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,293
Originally Posted by cactiboss
Hey look, the east is at it again.
Does anyone really know when the NDA expires?
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