They're off cacti. I offered for you to show me, what's the problem if it's so simple?

The company lawyers might not be so cozy with you after this week.

 

Did you attorney write "With that said, the West pilots must do whatever is needed to defend the Nicolau Award." or not? Sounds like a very wide ranging threat to me. Especially when congress and the feds are looking into this. Seems a little disingenuous after recommending that his clients vote for the MOU and they did by 97%.

 

Yeah you are probably right the company lawyers sure were shocked and surprised. So who is replacing Hummel and symanski?

 

No answers huh? Okay, I'll let you off the hook until you hear from your handlers.

 

Well they are very happy tonight. No comment on hummels replacement? ( if phl is successful)

 

As a 3rd lister I am painfully aware of both sides of this issue. I understand the textbook definition of binding arbitration, but I also don't see the logic in a never ending litigation over an 8 year old seniority list, that never was implemented.

Now with the M-B legislation in place, would it make more sense just to take all 3 lists as they stand today through the process? The M-B process is not going to allow a strictly DOH combination and must factor relative seniority for career expectations. Granted the West guys would probably not enjoy the same advantages of the Nic, but they would not suffer DOH either.

Again, I don't have a dog in the fight but I do have a front seat at the show. Right now we are looking at an unstoppable force pushing an immovable object.

 

That wouldn't work, would be nice but it wouldn't work. From what I can tell, the west idea is NIC or absolutely nothing, though if you sample random easties, it's usually ANYTHING but the NIC.

I will hand it to the westies and AOL, for a small group, they got a great propaganda machine. The have all the forums covered, they got the videos makers etc etc etc......

Ask a Westie if he would be willing to come off the stance of ONLY NIC, for labor peace so we could move on? I already know the answer.

 

I agree. I have talked with West guys and its the Nic or nothing. No compromise. With that line of thinking, it'll either be brilliant triumph or a blundering failure. Not much room in the middle.

 

I encourage the westies to push their agenda..Please continue your unabated saber rattling!! It will only expedite your own demise..Just ask the AirTran guys how their effort worked out. It is now blatantly and i reputably obvious that the West Class pilots are attempting to garner advantages on the new AA/USA SLI process by accepting nothing else but their beloved Nic. It is no longer a matter of securing a fair integration for them..It is WINNER TAKES ALL!! They are willing to advance their agenda at the expense of ALL USA and most AA pilots. They are not content with pay-raises or the career advancement potential that this merger will provide. It is in their view, that their pathetic little airline, the former AW, has saved USA and now AA. And for this, they will not rest until their 9 year LOS pilots upgrade to a group 2 AC or better, regardless of who, or how many pilots they damage along the way. This is a wake up call to ALL pilots presently involved in this merger. If fairness is truly their intent, then why attempt to hold this merger hostage at the detriment of the entire pilot group?

 

Well, I can't really blame the west either. The arbitration is a compromise between two opposing views on seniority- why would the west compromise any more? It would be compromising on the compromise.