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Old 03-27-2014, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer View Post
No, you're wrong. I know this will fall on deaf ears because you're obviously a subject matter expert and USAPA has personally wronged you (by the way you post). No one will be able to change your mind on this, but here goes.
USAPA hasn't "wronged me"........at least yet. It seems you already have closed your mind about me and so I doubt I could change your mind about anything even if I wanted to.

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Third-Listers DO NOT reside on the East seniority list. That list stopped in 2005. Third-Listers are arranged by DATE OF HIRE behind all pre-merger US Airways and America West pilots. The new hires that are going to PHX are not automatically West pilots. They're Third-List pilots. They're arranged by Date of Hire with other Third-List pilots.
There are THREE separate seniority lists at US Airways ? No, I didn't know that. You're describing an order of arrangement though, not three separate lists, so perhaps someone else can confirm this. The Nicolau list is one list from my understanding, but that is NOT in use, nor is it recognized by USAPA your present bargaining agent. Thus, you presently have a list of West pilots and.................well, I don't what you're saying about the East list, again that it is TWO lists ?

This is more confusing to me then revealing.

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There are a vast majority of Third-Listers (me included) that are very unhappy with USAPA representation. We know where we stand in all of this. We just want this to get finished.
I understand that, but I can't make the justification of someone claiming they not a part of any of this, yet defending USAPA at virtually every opportunity against both West pilots regarding Nicolau and against a dopey AA flow-thru regarding their identical conduct with the MOU and this SLI. As far as "getting this finished", I'm afraid as long as USAPA remains in the equation as your recognized bargaining agent, you can expect a slow go, which is one of my frequent points exactly.

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However, I'm sure I've just wasted my time typing to you. You're right. I'm wrong. You know anything and everything about US Airways.
Jesus. Why not wait for a response before deciding what I'll say ? This isn't about me attacking third listers, so don't take this personally. This is about me evaluating the credibility of someone (one person) who spends 95% of his time debating and even arguing with West pilots and said dopey flow-thru DEFENDING USAPA while saying "I'm not an East pilot" as though he were a Delta or Republic pilot. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want to give him credibility, that's fine, but I'm not. He's obviously a fervent supporter of the organization you supposedly hate, so that would be confusing to me though.

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I have been curious. How has USAPA personally (and I'm not talking about how the industry sees USAPA) hurt you? They obviously have in a very bad way because you have almost as big of an axe to grind as WD and Cacti.
Again, USAPA hasn't "hurt" me...........at least YET. That's simply your perception. I'm critical of them because of their actions and tactics which I find to be undefendable. The discussions on this forum about USAPA involve those who rationalize or defend what they do and those that do not. Obviously, I'm in the latter category, but that doesn't necessarily equate with harm. However, in this instance they ARE indeed harming the integration process and as one directly affected, I have the right to voice my opinions on the matter. It seems some believe that anyone who finds fault with USAPA is improperly "grinding an ax". I disagree. I really don't know what else to tell you.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer View Post
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I have been curious. How has USAPA personally (and I'm not talking about how the industry sees USAPA) hurt you? They obviously have in a very bad way because you have almost as big of an axe to grind as WD and Cacti....
Eaglefly is "nuts" (to use his own words ).. He claims USAPA has never personally hurt him yet as you say he grinds his axe everyday.

At least WD and CB are consistent, even if dead wrong.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:34 AM
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Eaglefly is "nuts" (to use his own words ).. He claims USAPA has never personally hurt him yet as you say he grinds his axe everyday.


At least WD and CB are consistent, even if dead wrong.
Oh gee........a devout APC Usapian hates eaglefly ?

Say it isn't so.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:49 AM
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Oh gee........a devout APC Usapian hates eaglefly ?

Say it isn't so.
Consider this your notice of expulsion from Usapa... Deportation paperwork from planet Usapa will begin immediately.
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:53 AM
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Oh gee........a devout APC Usapian hates eaglefly ?

Say it isn't so.

You are projecting your own hate. I do not hate you. You seem "nuts" to me but I don't hate you. How could I hate someone junior to me.

I would never ridicule you personally or use ad hominem arguments, and if I did I would apologize, embarrassed that I undermined my credibility.

It seems you hate USAPA but are unable to provide a rationale for said hate, and you hate people for pointing it out.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:04 AM
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You are projecting your own hate. I do not hate you. You seem "nuts" to me but I don't hate you. How could I hate someone junior to me.

I would never ridicule you personally or use ad hominem arguments, and if I did I would apologize, embarrassed that I undermined my credibility.

It seems you hate USAPA but are unable to provide a rationale for said hate, and you hate people for pointing it out.
...and yet you refuse to acknowledge that you are obsessed with me. It's gotten to the point the only thing you can do now is provoke dispute with unsolicited flame bait posts like the last one or more flame bait posts like this one stating you are senior to me knowing you are a 3rd lister and I'm a flow thru and that hasn't been decided. That's all you do now.............provoke and bait in the hope of instigating conflict.

You won't put me on ignore, because then you can't continue your sick little game. To the other HONORABLE 3rd listers here posting or lurking, it's individuals like this that are giving you a bad name. Yes, I dislike USAPA and think 44 is nuts, but you are simply sick.

For the sake of your loved ones (if you have any), get help.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:09 AM
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Consider this your notice of expulsion from Usapa... Deportation paperwork from planet Usapa will begin immediately.

Probably a good idea. Looks like some of the thugs would like to jack me up out by the bike rack after school.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle View Post
You are projecting your own hate. I do not hate you. You seem "nuts" to me but I don't hate you. How could I hate someone junior to me.

I would never ridicule you personally or use ad hominem arguments, and if I did I would apologize, embarrassed that I undermined my credibility.

It seems you hate USAPA but are unable to provide a rationale for said hate, and you hate people for pointing it out.


To undermine your credibility, would require credibility to exist in the first place.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
...and yet you refuse to acknowledge that you are obsessed with me. It's gotten to the point the only thing you can do now is provoke dispute with unsolicited flame bait posts like the last one or more flame bait posts like this one stating you are senior to me knowing you are a 3rd lister and I'm a flow thru and that hasn't been decided. That's all you do now.............provoke and bait in the hope of instigating conflict.

You won't put me on ignore, because then you can't continue your sick little game. To the other HONORABLE 3rd listers here posting or lurking, it's individuals like this that are giving you a bad name. Yes, I dislike USAPA and think 44 is nuts, but you are simply sick.

For the sake of your loved ones (if you have any), get help.

You are delusional and you are too easy to rile up.

I am senior to you... Whether it gets decided by relative position or DOH. Doesn't matter. I am senior to you. I dare you... ignore the bait... Sorry, I may not respond.. I am busy working on some retirement paperwork.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:54 AM
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You are delusional and you are too easy to rile up.

I am senior to you... Whether it gets decided by relative position or DOH. Doesn't matter. I am senior to you. I dare you... ignore the bait... Sorry, I may not respond.. I am busy working on some retirement paperwork.
I'm sorry but you haven't riled me up, but feel free to continue to convince yourself you have. As I stated, I don't put much stock in anything maroon tortoises and pink elephants say and your seniority means nothing to me. You ARE obsessed with me though. If you're not obsessed, put me on ignore..........I dare you.

You know you can't. You are powerless and seniority won't empower you when one little Eagle flow-thru here can force you NOT to do something......even a junior one.

You're used to controlling others, but that's not happening here (actually the other way around) and I think this must really torque your bolt and perhaps that is the foundation for your obsession with me, yes ?

You COULD do us all and yourself a favor and not respond, but we know you are helpless to control yourself and so you will. In fact, according to your little green ball, you're still here waiting........hoping to feed that obsession. Perhaps not immediately, but you'll be back for more because with obsession, you are no longer in control. See you soon !
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