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02-20-2013, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Quick answer to that is that we on the West are bound to the Nicolau because it has been held up by a DFR from the East centric union.
We cannot negotiate off the Nicolau because it dilutes our case for a DFR. The fact that the company used an inferior contract on the east to whipsaw the pilot groups does not constitute an advantage for one group over the other. That supposed advantage for the east was the result of an artificial scenario, and would last only until an actual contract with pay raises and new terms better than LOA 93 was put forth. The MOU is that new contract. There is no other path now other than a new JCBA between LCC and (now) AAG.
We cannot negotiate off the Nicolau because it dilutes our case for a DFR. The fact that the company used an inferior contract on the east to whipsaw the pilot groups does not constitute an advantage for one group over the other. That supposed advantage for the east was the result of an artificial scenario, and would last only until an actual contract with pay raises and new terms better than LOA 93 was put forth. The MOU is that new contract. There is no other path now other than a new JCBA between LCC and (now) AAG.
BTW, have all parties officially agreed to the MOU?
02-20-2013, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
. I think you'd come out quicker and look more interested in fairness if you brought all 3 lists to the arbitrator.
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02-20-2013, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Apa board approved it and east and west had to vote in since its a change to work rules and rates of pay.
02-20-2013, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
I know about them, how about the two companies? I thought theirs was done before we voted but seem to recall that they actually hadn't.
02-20-2013, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
The companies signed the mou first, followed by apa board then usapa thru a vote
Corporation, et al., jointly administered Ch. 11 Case No. 11-15463 (SHL) in connection with the
Merger.
02-20-2013, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
The first time I read the MOU that was the way I thought it was heading.
02-20-2013, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
The first time I read the MOU that was the way I thought it was heading.
I was at a meeting with the AOL principles and the lawyers two weeks ago. I,too, am surprised that this letter was sent out now, the feeling I got from the meeting is that we were going to wait a little while to see how the negotiation process would work out prior to the POR date. Evidently things are moving forward quicker than expected and Leonidas wanted to put all parties on notice. That's fall all this is about, notice of potential action. Also note that in the letter from Dr Harper the final emphasis is that the West pilots want this merger, and we want it done as soon as possible.
02-20-2013, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
30. This Memorandum is ultimately subject to approval by the Bankruptcy Court in In Re AMR
Corporation, et al., jointly administered Ch. 11 Case No. 11-15463 (SHL) in connection with the
Merger.
Corporation, et al., jointly administered Ch. 11 Case No. 11-15463 (SHL) in connection with the
Merger.
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