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Old 08-23-2016, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
Manning avg for the 777/787 combined is 21.
777 is lower as it's more established.
787 is slightly higher as it's growing which makes it slightly inefficient from a manning perspective.

Pilot totals is up. Hours are up. Planes that don't fly as much are being replaced by airplanes that are being flown more.
Sliceback the 21 number reflects the large amount of historical 3 pilot routes flown by the 330 and 777 to Europe and South America.

Saab referenced 2013. Since then we have acquired several 777s and nearly 20 787 that have been placed predominantly on 4 pilot routes. The new 330's all went to 3 pilot flying.

Since 2013, DFW has added, PEK, PVG, HKG and SEL. LAX has added SYD, AKL, PVG, PEK and HND. Most of these routes require 4 pilots and the pilots only fly 3 trips a month. This has driven the staffing requirements up since Asia has a higher manning requirement than the traditional 330 and 777 manning of Europe and SA.

The point to Saab was each time we add a Far East destination it usually requires 4 pilots who fly three trips a month. That equates to 40 pilots (30/3 * 4) plus 20% reserve manning for each route. Seeing it takes two airplanes to fly a Far Easr route it is pretty close to 25 pilots per plane.

Europe and SA crews usually fly 4 to 5 trips a month (Northeast coast crews being the 5) with only 3 crew members the number is closer to your 21.
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Old 08-23-2016, 07:45 PM
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Guys, I got an email 2 days ago to interview on 7 September. Interviewed 2 weeks ago with another legacy airline so I've been in the books but was hoping to gain some insight on the American interview process, the tests, favorite HR questions, etc. Thanks, in advance, for ANY information you can provide.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by A10Beav View Post
Sorry, I don't remember the names of those who interviewed me. It was a large interview group, so there were several captains doing the interviews. However, you're only interviewed by two captains.



First day is a few hours of computer tests, after you turn in the required paperwork. The tests seem to test your attention span, attention to detail, eye/hand coord and some general cognitive ability.

The second day is the interview and it's pretty low stress. You're already there because they know you're qualified, so the interview is a conversation to get to know you and to see how you think. A few "tell me about a time" stories and two scenarios, just to see how you make decisions. Any of the interview prep courses should do a good job to get you ready for this.
A10Beav, Congratulations! I have an interview on the 7th. Regarding Day 1 testing, is it just a Cognitive test? Also, is the test similar to the one that Delta gives? (i.e. a touch screen wit some multi tasking arrow key work with non-dominant hand) Also, did you take a psych test?

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Old 08-24-2016, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SEAviator View Post
A10Beav, Congratulations! I have an interview on the 7th. Regarding Day 1 testing, is it just a Cognitive test? Also, is the test similar to the one that Delta gives? (i.e. a touch screen wit some multi tasking arrow key work with non-dominant hand) Also, did you take a psych test?
The cog test is similar to Delta, but it is not considered an aptitude test and there is no pass/fail (it is more of a data point). The better you do, the more difficult the test becomes. They are designed to test you to failure - I felt drained and like I failed by the time it was complete (it's about four hours total). There is no psych test. Send me a PM and I can give you a little more detail.

Originally Posted by SEAviator View Post
Guys, I got an email 2 days ago to interview on 7 September. Interviewed 2 weeks ago with another legacy airline so I've been in the books but was hoping to gain some insight on the American interview process, the tests, favorite HR questions, etc. Thanks, in advance, for ANY information you can provide.
The interview is a two day process and they will get you a round trip flight and hotel. The first day is business casual (slacks and a collared shirt). They collect your paperwork and give you the cognitive test, which lasts 3-4 hours.

Second day is the interview process. First interview is with a pilot crew - one Captain and one FO in most situations. They start with introductions of themselves and don't ask about your background (they have studied your resume and will tell you what you did...."So when you were flying XXXX at XXXXX, tell me about....")

Here's the questions I got...
TMAAT you had a crew member give you criticism you didn't like or didn't think was warranted.
Tell me how important communication is, how you communicate and break down barriers to communication.
TMAAT you intervened in something flying related that you thought was unsafe.
TMAAT you didn't get along with somebody TMAAT you disagreed with a policy

During my response, it was somewhat interactive - I feel like it was supposed to cover several areas of responses, and if I was missing something, they would give me a prod in the right direction.

My Scenarios were a takeoff with impending thunderstorms, a NORDO, and a MX problem at the gate with frustrated passengers. Each one started offf with me running through the scenario and providing my answers, but turned into a little more of back-and-forth discussion as it went on.

The HR portion was one-on-one and seemed very (almost too) short with only two questions and a little paperwork.
- For the first question, she took out the first (NORDO) scenario from my previous interview and said, "I'm not a pilot, tell me what this scenario means in layman's terms." I dumbed it down to civilian speak and there was no follow up discussion.
- For the second question I was asked about factors that affect airline profitability.
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint View Post
The cog test is similar to Delta, but it is not considered an aptitude test and there is no pass/fail (it is more of a data point). The better you do, the more difficult the test becomes. They are designed to test you to failure - I felt drained and like I failed by the time it was complete (it's about four hours total). There is no psych test. Send me a PM and I can give you a little more detail.


The interview is a two day process and they will get you a round trip flight and hotel. The first day is business casual (slacks and a collared shirt). They collect your paperwork and give you the cognitive test, which lasts 3-4 hours.

Second day is the interview process. First interview is with a pilot crew - one Captain and one FO in most situations. They start with introductions of themselves and don't ask about your background (they have studied your resume and will tell you what you did...."So when you were flying XXXX at XXXXX, tell me about....")

Here's the questions I got...
TMAAT you had a crew member give you criticism you didn't like or didn't think was warranted.
Tell me how important communication is, how you communicate and break down barriers to communication.
TMAAT you intervened in something flying related that you thought was unsafe.
TMAAT you didn't get along with somebody TMAAT you disagreed with a policy

During my response, it was somewhat interactive - I feel like it was supposed to cover several areas of responses, and if I was missing something, they would give me a prod in the right direction.

My Scenarios were a takeoff with impending thunderstorms, a NORDO, and a MX problem at the gate with frustrated passengers. Each one started offf with me running through the scenario and providing my answers, but turned into a little more of back-and-forth discussion as it went on.

The HR portion was one-on-one and seemed very (almost too) short with only two questions and a little paperwork.
- For the first question, she took out the first (NORDO) scenario from my previous interview and said, "I'm not a pilot, tell me what this scenario means in layman's terms." I dumbed it down to civilian speak and there was no follow up discussion.
- For the second question I was asked about factors that affect airline profitability.
Great info. Thanks Clint.
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Old 08-24-2016, 04:51 PM
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Hi everyone! Just got the invite to interview with AA. Anyone have any good info on the video interview portion?

For those wondering, I went to the most recent OBAP conference in Chicago as well. Thanks in advance!
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Old 08-24-2016, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by texan84 View Post
Hi everyone! Just got the invite to interview with AA. Anyone have any good info on the video interview portion?
Here's from last year.
I had a bud who just did the video interview a couple weeks ago, he said it hasn't changed.
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by texan84 View Post
Hi everyone! Just got the invite to interview with AA. Anyone have any good info on the video interview portion?

For those wondering, I went to the most recent OBAP conference in Chicago as well. Thanks in advance!
Did you do any other conferences or do you think that this conference directly led to your interview invite just wondering because I've been to two in the last year and still waiting to get a call
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:51 PM
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Texan, congrats on the interview! Would you mind sharing your stats. I also went to OBAP and am hoping for the best!!!
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by F2TH View Post
Texan, congrats on the interview! Would you mind sharing your stats. I also went to OBAP and am hoping for the best!!!
So, you're in the wrong section, try UAL, DAL or FDX...I'm trying not to be cynical about this place, but seriously, our contract is lagging
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