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Old 08-29-2016 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
I think dues were already paid for those who spent 10-20 years at the regionals.
You would think. Welcome to the bottom of reserve, where you start all over again commuting for your 4am rap. Time to pay your dues all over again and start at the bottom. The first time was just for practice.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 04:50 AM
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Has anyone that interviewed a few weeks ago heard back from the company? I'm going in for an interview tomorrow and was curious to know the timeframe. Thanks guys and best of luck to everyone on achieving this wonderful dream of working for AA.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy
You would think. Welcome to the bottom of reserve, where you start all over again commuting for your 4am rap. Time to pay your dues all over again and start at the bottom. The first time was just for practice.
I'm amazed at the number of junior AA pilots that have only been here a few years or less that continue to complain about being here.

Did you guys not realize when you were interviewing or chose to flow through you would start at the bottom of the list?

Did you not realize that would mean you would be on reserve?

For those that interviewed did you not let your interviewers know that you wanted to come to AA but didn't want to start all over at the bottom or be on reserve? Or did you put on that blue suit, white shirt and red tie and tell them how much you wanted to work fur AA?

If you flowed through did you let your training pilots and your chief pilots know you didn't like being at the bottom so they could make an accurate assessment about you?

You guys do amaze me. You would have done anything to get this job while flying at a regional or coming out of the military. Now you have it you ***** how bad it is.

In the next 20 years you will make more than you would have in 40 at your past job. Your pension will be double over that period.

How many of you if you could go back in time would choose to stay where you were before and not come here?

It's a shame there isn't a do over process. After three years you could chose to go back to where you came from or AA could choose to send you back.

My guess is AA would be sending a lot more back than those that chose to go back. If any at all chose to.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Xavier3251
Has anyone that interviewed a few weeks ago heard back from the company? I'm going in for an interview tomorrow and was curious to know the timeframe. Thanks guys and best of luck to everyone on achieving this wonderful dream of working for AA.
Xavier,

I can't tell you the timeframe. They should be able to let you know at the interview.

I do know you are interviewing at a great time. The last of our furloughed pilots come back next week so all the classes moving forward will now contain new hires and/or flow throughs.

You are in the first interview group this month. There will be three more this month. Each interview group will have 20 pilots. There was only one interview group last month and none for several months before that so there is only about 20 pilots or less waiting on class dates.

AA has said they are ramping up hiring through the end of the year and into next year. An additional 100 pilots (total) through the end of the year on top of the normal monthly hiring of 50. Next year is projected to be 1,000 new pilots (flow throughs and new hires).

Pilots interviewing now can expect late October to early November classes so the process you go through will likely be much quicker than seen in the past.

Good luck this week!
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Old 08-30-2016 | 08:08 AM
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Mgt has said - 800 to 1,000 new hires next year.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Mgt has said - 800 to 1,000 new hires next year.
Latest is 1,000. They have recently been told hiring is to be "increased" in the last quarter of this year by 100 and increased above previous projections for the beginning of next year for a total of 1,000 in 2017. Things are always up for change, but that's the number today.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown
I'm amazed at the number of junior AA pilots that have only been here a few years or less that continue to complain about being here.

Did you guys not realize when you were interviewing or chose to flow through you would start at the bottom of the list?

Did you not realize that would mean you would be on reserve?

For those that interviewed did you not let your interviewers know that you wanted to come to AA but didn't want to start all over at the bottom or be on reserve? Or did you put on that blue suit, white shirt and red tie and tell them how much you wanted to work fur AA?

If you flowed through did you let your training pilots and your chief pilots know you didn't like being at the bottom so they could make an accurate assessment about you?

You guys do amaze me. You would have done anything to get this job while flying at a regional or coming out of the military. Now you have it you ***** how bad it is.

In the next 20 years you will make more than you would have in 40 at your past job. Your pension will be double over that period.

How many of you if you could go back in time would choose to stay where you were before and not come here?

It's a shame there isn't a do over process. After three years you could chose to go back to where you came from or AA could choose to send you back.

My guess is AA would be sending a lot more back than those that chose to go back. If any at all chose to.
You have it all wrong. We are very excited about being here. This issue is that you think it was an easy route to AA. Many have paid their dues over and over struggling at the regionals with inept unions, poor management and everything that goes along with that. We don't need Senior pilots telling us how good we have it. Because we are far more aware than you think. You need to understand how selling scope has been and is the biggest negative impact you can do to the industry. Age 65/911/increasing scope has not made it an easy path to a mainline carrier. And don't forget in 2005 there were 6 mainline carriers. Now 3.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
You have it all wrong. We are very excited about being here. This issue is that you think it was an easy route to AA. Many have paid their dues over and over struggling at the regionals with inept unions, poor management and everything that goes along with that. We don't need Senior pilots telling us how good we have it. Because we are far more aware than you think. You need to understand how selling scope has been and is the biggest negative impact you can do to the industry. Age 65/911/increasing scope has not made it an easy path to a mainline carrier. And don't forget in 2005 there were 6 mainline carriers. Now 3.
Seafeye,

I realize most are happy to be here. I was responding to those few complaining about "being here" not "getting here". Your group is not the first group that had a tough time getting here. While your group was trying to get here we were taking massive cuts to our contracts and what used to be a good quality of life. Like you said about senior guys telling you all, we don't need to hear about it from the junior guys. We've already lived it. So it's not been fun for anyone over the past decade or more.

As for selling out Scope you might want to see how the BK process works. We didn't sell scope it was robbed from us, just like our pay, work rules and pensions were while you were trying to get here.

So now that you got here (not necessarily you) start acting like you enjoy it because nothing is going to change the time it took you to get here.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown
Xavier,

I can't tell you the timeframe. They should be able to let you know at the interview.

I do know you are interviewing at a great time. The last of our furloughed pilots come back next week so all the classes moving forward will now contain new hires and/or flow throughs.

You are in the first interview group this month. There will be three more this month. Each interview group will have 20 pilots. There was only one interview group last month and none for several months before that so there is only about 20 pilots or less waiting on class dates.

AA has said they are ramping up hiring through the end of the year and into next year. An additional 100 pilots (total) through the end of the year on top of the normal monthly hiring of 50. Next year is projected to be 1,000 new pilots (flow throughs and new hires).

Pilots interviewing now can expect late October to early November classes so the process you go through will likely be much quicker than seen in the past.

Good luck this week!
Thanks Slice! I've worked hard for this. Hopefully the stars will align for me this week!
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Old 08-30-2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by F2TH
Texan, congrats on the interview! Would you mind sharing your stats. I also went to OBAP and am hoping for the best!!!
Approx 2800TT, 1300 TPIC, primarily military time in the C17 and T6. IP in both planes. 300 hours in a 747.
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