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Old 08-15-2016 | 07:37 AM
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The most junior guy I see in a quick scroll through the 320 at DFW is a 24 JUL 2015 hire. I'm not sure when he held the status, but that's not too bad. I have no idea how SLI will affect base seniority though.
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Old 08-15-2016 | 07:38 AM
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Junior DFW FO on the three n/b fleets are all March-April new hires.

Past performance is no guarantee of future performer. ;-)

More LUS guys into DFW, vs LAA guys that want into PHX or CLT, will cause delays getting into DFW. No one knows the answer to who, or how many, want to transfer between the post SLI available bases. So it might be three months, it might be two years. With more than 1,000 retirements in the next two years I doubt it will take two years.
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Old 08-15-2016 | 07:41 AM
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DFW to MIA is perhaps the busiest base to base commute. It allows DFW pilots(senior) access to perhaps the most junior base in the company (MIA).

Post SLI movement, and accelerating retirements, will create new dynamics.
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Old 08-15-2016 | 07:43 AM
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Growth, like LAX is experiencing, tends to make a base shift more junior. That's true in LAX in the last year (+/-).
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Old 08-15-2016 | 02:16 PM
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CLT will be the new DFW IMO.
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Old 08-15-2016 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
CLT will be the new DFW IMO.
While I agree that it will remain one of the senior bases, CLT will probably not have the draw that DFW has simply because international flying will be limited from CLT. If a guy wants to stay on the 320 or possibly the 737 for the rest of their career then yeah, CLT will remain senior in that category. Any WB flying will likely be uber-senior simply because it'll be a fairly small base for that.

MIA may trend a little more senior since there are a lot of LUSers that live in Florida and commute to CLT. PHX guys will likely migrate to LAX and DFW mostly, although a few may scatter out to some of the other bases. For those who live in or near PHX, that base may provide some opportunity until they can hold DFW.

All a guessing game at this point though...except NYC and PHL will probably remain very junior simply because of the weather and cost of living.
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Old 08-15-2016 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LuckyNow
The most junior guy I see in a quick scroll through the 320 at DFW is a 24 JUL 2015 hire. I'm not sure when he held the status, but that's not too bad. I have no idea how SLI will affect base seniority though.
Yeah, I screwed that up when I said March-April 2016. 3XP's still using the old seniority numbers. Junior DFW is May 2015 (+/-).

Interesting, the bottom guys went up over 350 numbers on the LAA list. Friend hired in March jumped 350(+/-). Planned retirements was closer to 110(??). 98 in 2015 and 119 in 2016. Seniority list year is July 1 - June 30. So half of 2015 and 2016 would make the expected number closer to 110(??)???
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Old 08-15-2016 | 05:07 PM
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That's because the furlough guys were still on the seniority list and at that point a couple hundred had declined, making for a rapid climb for the bottom guys.
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Old 08-15-2016 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Yeah, I screwed that up when I said March-April 2016. 3XP's still using the old seniority numbers. Junior DFW is May 2015 (+/-).

Interesting, the bottom guys went up over 350 numbers on the LAA list. Friend hired in March jumped 350(+/-). Planned retirements was closer to 110(??). 98 in 2015 and 119 in 2016. Seniority list year is July 1 - June 30. So half of 2015 and 2016 would make the expected number closer to 110(??)???
Does it also account for guys who did not come.back for the recall?

Never mind should have kept reading the thread.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewtac
Also consider LAX. I am in Houston and the Miami commute is pretty easy. Not sure about DFW to Miami. My sim partner bid LA as soon as he could, he lives minutes from DFW. He said the commute was easier.
DFW to Miami is busy, but you should be okay if you plan ahead. In addition to all the normal non-revs, there are a lot of A1 and A3 (deadhead/positive space) folks going to and from the training center in Dallas. There are about 10 flights daily and all the airframes have two jumpseats. I always reserve the jumpseat when I know my schedule, but I've only had to use it once.
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