Hello Jules,

Former intern here as well. It seems to be case dependent on this issue. I know that some of my intern class has had interviews and a few that were hired. There are many former interns at Envoy who have heard nothing. I would guess 95% of the guys I know(former interns at envoy) have heard nothing. It seems being at envoy has worked against us to some degree in our efforts at getting an interview offer. I applied Oct '13 and have done everything I can think of to make myself stand out. I've been told I am a highly qualified candidate from an AA check airman friend. Credentials are 10,000+ total, 3,500+ PIC, Check Airman and 4 year degree. Understand that AAG has hired around 2% of the existing available pool OTS. Those who have made it so far are in a very small group. As others have pointed out AAG seems to be spooling up pilot recruitment again after a relatively strong 2014. Keep at it, updating your app regularly, attending job fairs, interview prep, adding a rec or two and focusing on building your character. When you get the call you will make it the easiest decision of their day to hire you. Hopefully age and time is on your side, if you get in sometime over the next 5 years you can have a long and enjoyable career here. Hope this helps.

 

I'm in the same boat. Former AA intern myself and have heard nothing. My former boss retired last year. And my other contacts are also retiring. As others have said, I'll just keep plugging away at keeping the app updated. And hopefully my recent upgrade will add some points.


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I think the seniority list will be done, I think all sides will begrudgingly accept it, and I think the company will nail the target date of single FOS on August 31, 2016.

However, I hope the company "does the next right thing" and actually runs "the big bid" shortly thereafter. Potential excuses not to include the different payroll systems we'll still be on, the lack of a common uniform, or perhaps even the influence of other workgroups who still don't have JCBAs. I live in an AA base and commute to a US one, so I hope this gets done as quick as anyone, but these are the things that keep me up at night.

 

Congrats to those of you who received in-person/video interviews! Glad to hear things are moving along.

Like some of the recent postings (Flame, Steve Hawkinga, etc.), I also completed my video interview in mid-Jan and received an additional info. email shortly after. But so far, things are still quiet on my end. Are there any others with a similar video invite timeline who also haven't heard anything yet - or should I brace myself for a TBNT soon?

Thanks, and best of luck to those interviewing in the next few weeks.

 

Well, also look at it this way. Since 2000, 15 years, fall, spring, summer sessions. I don't know, 10 interns per session. There has been 450ish interns total. How much street hiring has been done? 300? Even if they dedicated to say, a respectable 10% of street hires to interns, that's only 30 out of 450.

 

Surprise,
Not that it's impossible, but it would be unprecedented for a merged airline to have a "big bid" after SLI, otherwise known as a "bump and flush". Most post merger companies have just filled new positions internally and then offered leftovers to new hires. There can be displacements, but a big bump and flush would be unprecedented. Hope you did not base your QOL expectations on that eventuality.

 

I'm not expecting to displace anyone, and I'm not expecting anyone to displace me, either. In fact, I believe "bump and flush" is specifically forbidden per the Merger Transition Agreement.

My concern is that I won't even be able to bid on naturally occurring "organic" vacancies as they come up on the other side, and vice versa. I know our PHX brethren want off "the island" ASAP, for example, and with a seniority list finally in place, there theoretically should be no impediment for them to do so, vacancies permitting. I should be allowed to bid into DFW if I like, and my colleagues there should be allowed to bid into CLT. There is so much movement system-wide that availability of vacancies shouldn't be a constraint. I'm more worried about the company coming up with creative other excuses on why this can't happen next fall.

 

Thought it was a "fishbowl" now.

 

No bump and flush. Bid what you can hold depending upon vacancies.
Retirements, new a/c, and new a/c in a base will generate movement.

 

The only movement I'm seeing on the US side is backward. And it's quite substantial.