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Old 08-28-2015 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TQ Nola
It certainly can be done. They went from one class of 70(?)/month when I was hired to double that in 2001. I don't remember the exact numbers, so ballparked. When I transitioned from FE to S80 FO, my sims were in Long Beach CA because of the overflow.
Seniority list showing class sizes around 80 in 2000-2001. Years ago class sizes were typically multiples of 6 in the 80's-90's. Full load was typically 78-84 but there were some months that were higher. Maybe a 31 day month plus a class or two of DC-10 FE's bumped the total?

AB school is maxed out. Students getting sims at outside locations.
Heard one comment that is true for the 737 fleet also but havn't been able to confirm that.

One or two new sims in place but not certified. Two(?) more deliveries shortly.

Fleet replacement training is generating a training bubble that's taking a lot of training slots.
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Old 08-28-2015 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
I asked about the 800 in 2016 rumor. Response was that several people have asked about that number recently, because of the posts here, but they (person in the hiring office) hadn't heard any new guidance.
The person in the hiring office doesnt know what he/she is talking about. The envoy cheerleaders are more in the know...:roll eyes:


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Old 08-29-2015 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Seniority list showing class sizes around 80 in 2000-2001. Years ago class sizes were typically multiples of 6 in the 80's-90's. Full load was typically 78-84 but there were some months that were higher. Maybe a 31 day month plus a class or two of DC-10 FE's bumped the total?

AB school is maxed out. Students getting sims at outside locations.
Heard one comment that is true for the 737 fleet also but havn't been able to confirm that.

One or two new sims in place but not certified. Two(?) more deliveries shortly.

Fleet replacement training is generating a training bubble that's taking a lot of training slots.
They doubled by holding 2 classes/month back in '01 for a short time. Farmed out what training they couldn't manage at the schoolhouse by sending guys to eg Long Beach for sims. 9/11, of course, put an end to that.
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Old 08-30-2015 | 08:46 AM
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'99-2000 saw 2 classes a month usually topping out at 50 per class. Training center was maxed out training 100 new hires a month.
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Old 08-31-2015 | 05:36 PM
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Anyone hear anything today about October classes?
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Old 08-31-2015 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Press release.. Link...?
Why would there be a press release for this?
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Old 08-31-2015 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
I asked about the 800 in 2016 rumor. Response was that several people have asked about that number recently, because of the posts here, but they (person in the hiring office) hadn't heard any new guidance.
Recruiters have no idea what the yearly hiring totals will be. They are told to fill X over the next Y months and do not look past those targets since those decisions are made well above them. If you want to know what our projected hiring totals for 2016 look like you'd have to talk to APA, DoFO or Fleet Managers. They're able to read between the lines looking at attrition, capacity growth and fleet plans. Recruiters don't do this.
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Old 09-01-2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Recruiters have no idea what the yearly hiring totals will be. They are told to fill X over the next Y months and do not look past those targets since those decisions are made well above them. If you want to know what our projected hiring totals for 2016 look like you'd have to talk to APA, DoFO or Fleet Managers. They're able to read between the lines looking at attrition, capacity growth and fleet plans. Recruiters don't do this.
Huh? Recruiters absolutely know the number. Maybe not the lower level ones, especially if the number just changed, but PT knows the number off the top of her head. I've watched John Hale turn to her at the WAI to get the correct number.

Drinking beers with one of the top three guys last week. Chatted with another of the top three guys last week. One's been a friend for about 18 years and I've known the other guy since Sep. 1991. Spoke with a fleet manager, friend since 1986, last week.

One thinks 600 is about right. Fleet manager's plate is so full he's not wasting any brain power on the hiring numbers. Subject didn't come up with the third guy.

As far as APA goes, if the number changed RM or RJ would call over to PT to get the updated number.
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Old 09-01-2015 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by benji2012
Anyone hear anything today about October classes?
Anyone hear anything today about October classes?
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Old 09-01-2015 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Press release.. Link...?
Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Why would there be a press release for this?
Yes. You are correct. Neither a press release or a link is necessary to validate the hiring numbers.

I have it on good authority that the hiring numbers are actually 800 in the next 6 months, and over 2,000 by the end of 2016. Really. Sorry, I don't have a press release or a link. But you can trust me. My sources are really good, and I found them on the internet.
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