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Old 09-01-2015 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by benji2012
Anyone hear anything today about October classes?
Really? No one has heard anything for the October class? Thought we would've had a bite by now....
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Old 09-02-2015 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Huh? Recruiters absolutely know the number. Maybe not the lower level ones, especially if the number just changed, but PT knows the number off the top of her head. I've watched John Hale turn to her at the WAI to get the correct number.

Drinking beers with one of the top three guys last week. Chatted with another of the top three guys last week. One's been a friend for about 18 years and I've known the other guy since Sep. 1991. Spoke with a fleet manager, friend since 1986, last week.

One thinks 600 is about right. Fleet manager's plate is so full he's not wasting any brain power on the hiring numbers. Subject didn't come up with the third guy.

As far as APA goes, if the number changed RM or RJ would call over to PT to get the updated number.
My wife is a Director of HR and all the recruiters are beneath her. Before she was promoted to her new position she was a Senior Recruiter / Manager. They do not have control over the numbers. They only get info that states X# of classes need Y# of pilots and this will continue for Z# of months. They do not control anything beyond the time frame they were instructed to hire for. They have their opinions based upon trends but those opinions are not concrete, they are nothing more than guesstimations. PT's no different, the number she has was given to her for a set time period. Anything beyond that point is her insider opinion.

Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Yes. You are correct. Neither a press release or a link is necessary to validate the hiring numbers.



I have it on good authority that the hiring numbers are actually 800 in the next 6 months, and over 2,000 by the end of 2016. Really. Sorry, I don't have a press release or a link. But you can trust me. My sources are really good, and I found them on the internet.
In this industry "good authority" is a joke and yes a press release would help to validate but no one ever releases a press release for something as minor has hiring estimates.

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Old 09-02-2015 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
My wife is a Director of HR and all the recruiters are beneath her. Before she was promoted to her new position she was a Senior Recruiter / Manager. They do not have control over the numbers. They only get info that states X# of classes need Y# of pilots and this will continue for Z# of months. They do not control anything beyond the time frame they were instructed to hire for. They have their opinions based upon trends but those opinions are not concrete, they are nothing more than guesstimations. PT's no different, the number she has was given to her for a set time period. Anything beyond that point is her insider opinion.



In this industry "good authority" is a joke and yes a press release would help to validate but no one ever releases a press release for something as minor has hiring estimates.

Am I reading this correctly that your wife is the director of HR at AA?
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Old 09-02-2015 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by benji2012
Really? No one has heard anything for the October class? Thought we would've had a bite by now....
Nothing here either (October 1-2 interview group).
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Old 09-02-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ufgatorpilot
Nothing here either (October 1-2 interview group).
Never thought id be thinking "one month until the year mark". Oh well, lesson in patience I guess.
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Old 09-02-2015 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by benji2012
Never thought id be thinking "one month until the year mark". Oh well, lesson in patience I guess.
Yes, and over a year since the video interview!
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Old 09-02-2015 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by benji2012
Really? No one has heard anything for the October class? Thought we would've had a bite by now....
Well the week isn't over yet and they may even call next week for the early October class. I have heard they call 3-4 weeks prior.
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Old 09-02-2015 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGAANG
Well the week isn't over yet and they may even call next week for the early October class. I have heard they call 3-4 weeks prior.
Here's hoping amigo.
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Old 09-03-2015 | 11:10 AM
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What do you guys think? I've filled out all the references in the reference to where I can't fit anymore. Many are AA guys I know. Another couple are not pilots, but can write a great recommendation letter for me.

What does AA like more? An old college roommate that works for AA, or a non-AA guy that knows me well on a professional level.


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Old 09-03-2015 | 02:25 PM
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References don't factor in until the 2nd (Skype) interview. Going to some function where AA has a booth with recruiters working the event could get you pulled out of the electronic "stack".

When you get to do the online computer test, put on your best, smiley attitude. How you answer the first 50 questions determines whether or not they Skype you.

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