American interviews and class dates
#631
Here's another requirement for getting hired; willingness to be available for short call in base. A few probationary guys got sh!t canned for multiple out-of-base infractions. Talk about f'ing stupid! You make it all the way to the biggest airline in the world and get fired for trying to do short call from home in Columbus Ohio (after getting a few warnings too!) Good job guys! Can't imagine where they'll land.
#632
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To be honest, I'm not sure living in base has much to do with the selection process. A very good friend of mine lives 25 minutes from the Charlotte airport and didn't get hired. Great guy with impressive quals. The interview pass rate is running at a very tight margin, at the moment. Less than 50% of those interviewed get an offer of employment on the USAirways side. I think the big message here is not to take the interview for granted and assume it's easy, since there is no physical or simulator evaluation. Good luck, and prep, prep, prep, and prep some more!
#633
To be honest, I'm not sure living in base has much to do with the selection process. A very good friend of mine lives 25 minutes from the Charlotte airport and didn't get hired. Great guy with impressive quals. The interview pass rate is running at a very tight margin, at the moment. Less than 50% of those interviewed get an offer of employment on the USAirways side. I think the big message here is not to take the interview for granted and assume it's easy, since there is no physical or simulator evaluation. Good luck, and prep, prep, prep, and prep some more!
#634
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Are you absolutely sure about that less than 50 percent number? Seems extremely low, considering I know 10 people who have interviewed there, and all 10 were hired. So either that means us airways wants to hire the applicants they bring in, or I just have really awesome friends. Haha
#635
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Having international PIC time or PIC time in general has absolutely nothing to do with who would make a good fit for a new hire. Making you a "highly qualified candidate" isn't figured out by how much "international PIC" time you have, it's determined by, can I sit next to this person for 4 days.
It's a crew of 2 and you both do the same thing regardless of how many stripes you have. I would even venture to say that the FO does more in some instances because we all have flown with that captain that shows up 10 mins before the flight and leaves as the passengers deplane. Granted this is an extreme example and I know there are FO's that are equally as bad and the Captain is single pilot, I'm just saying food for thought.
If you want to take the attitude of "I'm a captain, I deserve this more than you because I'm better" to an interview." Please be my guess. I'm sure that's exactly what American is looking for.
#636
Having international PIC time or PIC time in general has absolutely nothing to do with who would make a good fit for a new hire. Making you a "highly qualified candidate" isn't figured out by how much "international PIC" time you have, it's determined by, can I sit next to this person for 4 days.
It's a crew of 2 and you both do the same thing regardless of how many stripes you have. I would even venture to say that the FO does more in some instances because we all have flown with that captain that shows up 10 mins before the flight and leaves as the passengers deplane. Granted this is an extreme example and I know there are FO's that are equally as bad and the Captain is single pilot, I'm just saying food for thought.
If you want to take the attitude of "I'm a captain, I deserve this more than you because I'm better" to an interview." Please be my guess. I'm sure that's exactly what American is looking for.
It's a crew of 2 and you both do the same thing regardless of how many stripes you have. I would even venture to say that the FO does more in some instances because we all have flown with that captain that shows up 10 mins before the flight and leaves as the passengers deplane. Granted this is an extreme example and I know there are FO's that are equally as bad and the Captain is single pilot, I'm just saying food for thought.
If you want to take the attitude of "I'm a captain, I deserve this more than you because I'm better" to an interview." Please be my guess. I'm sure that's exactly what American is looking for.
Would I hire me over someone with domestic PIC? It depends. At this point in our careers we've all demonstrated we can fly. If I'm hiring, I want to know a) if you're going to represent the operation and your fellow pilots well and b) if you're trainable/moldable to what we want you to be and do.
That second part is tough when you're talking about a widebody capt who's going back to narrow body FO on the bottom of the seniority list. The 25 year old kid coming from the RJ is going to be thrilled to be hired at a major and getting to sit in the right seat of a 737, but the previous heavy capt is going to have to muster up some motivation somehow.
Those of us that are still young know the dangers of flying int'l too long. You end up not wanting to make the transition. You get too comfortable, too unwilling to start again at the bottom. I'm 32, and I need to make the switch now, I've seen how this has affected people just a few years older than me into wanting to stay where they're at....
#637
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Believe it or not pilot66503, I agree with you. The PIC time I'm logging in the left seat of a 400 is remarkably different than a narrow body or RJ.
Would I hire me over someone with domestic PIC? It depends. At this point in our careers we've all demonstrated we can fly. If I'm hiring, I want to know a) if you're going to represent the operation and your fellow pilots well and b) if you're trainable/moldable to what we want you to be and do.
That second part is tough when you're talking about a widebody capt who's going back to narrow body FO on the bottom of the seniority list. The 25 year old kid coming from the RJ is going to be thrilled to be hired at a major and getting to sit in the right seat of a 737, but the previous heavy capt is going to have to muster up some motivation somehow.
Those of us that are still young know the dangers of flying int'l too long. You end up not wanting to make the transition. You get too comfortable, too unwilling to start again at the bottom. I'm 32, and I need to make the switch now, I've seen how this has affected people just a few years older than me into wanting to stay where they're at....
Would I hire me over someone with domestic PIC? It depends. At this point in our careers we've all demonstrated we can fly. If I'm hiring, I want to know a) if you're going to represent the operation and your fellow pilots well and b) if you're trainable/moldable to what we want you to be and do.
That second part is tough when you're talking about a widebody capt who's going back to narrow body FO on the bottom of the seniority list. The 25 year old kid coming from the RJ is going to be thrilled to be hired at a major and getting to sit in the right seat of a 737, but the previous heavy capt is going to have to muster up some motivation somehow.
Those of us that are still young know the dangers of flying int'l too long. You end up not wanting to make the transition. You get too comfortable, too unwilling to start again at the bottom. I'm 32, and I need to make the switch now, I've seen how this has affected people just a few years older than me into wanting to stay where they're at....
#638
Everyone has to talk themselves into making the leap. Even at the regionals, look at all the Eagle captains who are choosing not to flow up? I, like the rest of us, am building up the resume and patiently waiting for a call
#639
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#640
Even though they will never admit it (because it would be slightly illegal) I'm quite sure that age is a factor.
AAL has a huge demographic issue and I suspect the are looking at as many 27-30 year olds as possible.
I'm 43 (a survivor of the lost decade at American Eagle) and if it weren't for the flow through arbitrations I think they'd pass right over me.
I've been flying AA passengers safely for 16 years but that doesn't matter I guess.
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AAL has a huge demographic issue and I suspect the are looking at as many 27-30 year olds as possible.
I'm 43 (a survivor of the lost decade at American Eagle) and if it weren't for the flow through arbitrations I think they'd pass right over me.
I've been flying AA passengers safely for 16 years but that doesn't matter I guess.
10,000 TT
8,000 TPIC
CKA
Training Committee Chair
Eagle "824" guy
You went to Purdue.
You can't jump out of the way of a tug.
You fly "coupled" approaches the JJ way.
Hope you're well RK.
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