US / a320 weight restriction?
03-19-2014 | 07:04 PM
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03-19-2014 | 07:04 PM
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03-19-2014 | 09:28 PM
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Short flight/high arrival fuel just means restricted way below normal MTOW, but by no means restricts payload (per se).
Sorry, just had to get that out.
03-20-2014 | 05:00 AM
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Sorry, not to split hairs, but the length of the flight would have nothing to do with it. On an RJ (and, well, any aircraft) the only thing that would cause the flight to be weight restricted would be an abnormally high planned arrival fuel. While this would, in many cases, cause the flight to be weight restricted to a MGTOW below structural or even runway/climb performance, the fact that it's a 30 minute flight in no way limits it further than if it were a 1:00, 2:00, or 3:00 flight from off-to-on.
Short flight/high arrival fuel just means restricted way below normal MTOW, but by no means restricts payload (per se).
Sorry, just had to get that out.
Short flight/high arrival fuel just means restricted way below normal MTOW, but by no means restricts payload (per se).
Sorry, just had to get that out.
. practically speaking though its shorter flights that carry those restrictions when the wx is bad at destination with no good close alternations, possibly because the alternate is the original departure airport. I like that policy that no US js can be booted for w/b! I was just an offline guy bumming a ride to obap. Thanks for all the info! I'm now a little better prepared for my next jumpseating adventure.
03-21-2014 | 05:36 PM
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Couple years back I was denied the jumpseat on airways between PHL and SEA due to weight restriction. Plane went out with about 20 seats open. Pilots on the airbus I subsequently got on told me that the jumpseats were included in the bow of the aircraft and I should have got on. I did see a 737 lga to DFW that was restricted to 100 pax due to a fuel pump Mel.
03-21-2014 | 05:42 PM
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Couple years back I was denied the jumpseat on airways between PHL and SEA due to weight restriction. Plane went out with about 20 seats open. Pilots on the airbus I subsequently got on told me that the jumpseats were included in the bow of the aircraft and I should have got on. I did see a 737 lga to DFW that was restricted to 100 pax due to a fuel pump Mel.
03-21-2014 | 05:43 PM
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We recently got an email from the union about the myth of jumpseats being included in the BOW:
"It is widely and mistakenly believed that jumpseat weight is included in the basic aircraft operating weight. This has not been correct for some time. What our contract does allow is for mainline jumpseaters to get precedence over cargo so that they cannot be denied jumpseat due to weight. This does not apply to non-mainline jumpseaters who can be denied due to weight restrictions."
"It is widely and mistakenly believed that jumpseat weight is included in the basic aircraft operating weight. This has not been correct for some time. What our contract does allow is for mainline jumpseaters to get precedence over cargo so that they cannot be denied jumpseat due to weight. This does not apply to non-mainline jumpseaters who can be denied due to weight restrictions."
03-21-2014 | 05:51 PM
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[QUOTE=Starscream;1606246]Sorry, not to split hairs, but the length of the flight would have nothing to do with it. On an RJ (and, well, any aircraft) the only thing that would cause the flight to be weight restricted would be an abnormally high planned arrival fuel. While this would, in many cases, cause the flight to be weight restricted to a MGTOW below structural or even runway/climb performance, the fact that it's a 30 minute flight in no way limits it further than if it were a 1:00, 2:00, or 3:00 flight from off-to-on.
Short flight/high arrival fuel just means restricted way below normal MTOW, but by no means restricts payload (per se).
The above may be true for a RJ but it's certainly not true for mainline aircraft. The majority of the time we are weight restricted it's on long haul flights.
Short flight/high arrival fuel just means restricted way below normal MTOW, but by no means restricts payload (per se).
The above may be true for a RJ but it's certainly not true for mainline aircraft. The majority of the time we are weight restricted it's on long haul flights.
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