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Old 09-07-2014 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
So, now that we have a protocol agreement, what is the next step and the time frame? Worst case, how long until the lists are integrated?
The next step is to dissolve USAPA and then, per the MOU, get us a JCBA. We can't begin arbitration until we have one. So basically the ball's now in Parker's court. If he wants to meet the SOC time frame he needs to step to the plate and get us something we can approve before Mid. Nov.
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Old 09-07-2014 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
Per APA negotiating member in our JS last month, the dues holiday will apply to LUS pilots once APA is certified as bargaining agent. I appreciate the comedy of a being syndic, but damn it's about everything!
Who pays off USAPA's debt?
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Old 09-07-2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Who pays off USAPA's debt?
They plan on selling ties for $6.75.
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Old 09-07-2014 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Who pays off USAPA's debt?
Usapa has $13 million in the bank.
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Old 09-08-2014 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Usapa has $13 million in the bank.
Subject to pending merger and legal disputes.
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Old 09-08-2014 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
So, now that we have a protocol agreement, what is the next step and the time frame? Worst case, how long until the lists are integrated?
Not into posting union stuff but:



We thank the BPR for approving the Seniority Protocol Agreement (PA). As we have mentioned before, it provides the protections and tools to help us be successful in the Seniority List Integration (SLI) process with the APA pilots. The passage of the Protocol Agreement triggers a number of items:

Within 10 days of signing the PA, we will exchange the three certified seniority lists with the APA.
Within 14 days of signing, we and the APA will select three arbitrators for the McCaskill-Bond SLI arbitration. Within 5 days following the selection of the SLI Arbitration Board, we, the Company and the APA will select three other arbitrators for a Preliminary Arbitration Board to hear any applications by pilots from the West seniority list who desire a separate West merger committee to represent their interests in the SLI process.
Additionally, within 14 days, we and the APA will commence a 45-day period that may be used to negotiate items specified in paragraph 5b of the Protocol Agreement, including employment data, snapshot date, fleet, staffing, and bidding patterns. This timeline may be extended by mutual agreement.
Once APA becomes certified as the bargaining agent, pilots from the West seniority list who are requesting separate representation will have 14 days to apply to the Preliminary Arbitration Board.

30 days after the closing of the application process, the preliminary arbitration hearings must be completed (subject to the arbitrators’ schedules).
Those hearings will last no more than 5 days.
30 days following the start of the hearing, the arbitrators will issue or deny separate representation.
If the arbitrators allow a West committee, within 14 days, the parties will revisit paragraph 8c of the PA and exchange data and information as well as reconsider any issues unresolved by the committees.
There are other major SLI events described within the Protocol Agreement that will be triggered upon the completion of the JCBA:

The arbitration hearing process, including any prehearing conferences, will begin as soon as practical.
The arbitration hearing will be limited to 12 days, but may be extended by 4 days if required, either by agreement or by order of the Arbitration Board.
Once concluded, the Arbitration Board will set a schedule for the submission of post-hearing briefs and/or oral arguments.
The Arbitration Board will issue its draft award.
The parties will have 10 days to comment on the award but no new exhibits/evidence are allowed.
The parties then have 5 days to respond to the comments of other parties.
The Final SLI Award will be issued within 6 months from the start of the McCaskill-Bond SLI arbitration hearing, but no later than December 9, 2015 which is 24 months after the transaction/effective date.
The Arbitration Board will retain jurisdiction over its SLI award to resolve any disputes that may arise over interpretation, application, or implementation of the award.
Throughout the process, we will do our best to keep you informed as we are able, without compromising our cases or proposals. We completely understand the personal importance these SLI proceedings will have for each one of our pilots. Thank you for your support as we enter this critical phase of the merger with American Airlines. We look forward to representing you.

USAPA Merger Committee
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Old 09-08-2014 | 01:46 PM
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After that, how long for USAPA to pitch a temper tantrum and start filing lawsuits?
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Old 09-08-2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
After that, how long for USAPA to pitch a temper tantrum and start filing lawsuits?
Typo there. You meant AOL.
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Old 09-08-2014 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Typo there. You meant AOL.
No..pretty sure that wasn't a typo.
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Old 09-08-2014 | 03:59 PM
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Well both sides have a long and storied history of using the court system. I say it's time to chill and take a wait-and-see stance. Or at least have fun with it and take a bet on who sues first
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