Doug can have the seven changes he wants to the contract whenever he gives us just one or two changes that we are asking for.

So far he is just demanding. His profits are better than Delta. He needs to at least pay some Delta standard contract items. Anything else is unacceptable.

 

Currently at USAir we have many three days paying 10 hours and many four days paying 15 or 16hours, some even less . .. Just wait till PBS and HBT kick in.. We will have many unpaid 36 hour layovers ... And in international, with one less relief pilot.

 

At Delta we actually added relief pilots on some prior two man routes as a result of the very short duty day allowed with two man ops under 117. Again something I would not worry to much about.
The 5:15 daily minimum is however turning out to be a really good thing especially when they are building rotations for irregular ops. It's the one issue that I would push hard to get!

 

Calendar day with current offer. Done.

 

Exactly why the work rules are so critical. Most especially the rigs.

Pay = Pay-rate x Hours.

It never ceases to amaze how stupidly pilots think 'Pay' is the 'Pay-rate'.

The proposed duty rig means that the 4-day trip you fly now, which pays 19 hrs x Pay-rate, will pay 10:20hrs x Pay-rate.

This management relies on the fact that at least 50%+1 of the voting pilots only see 'Pay-rate' and never perform the simple arithmetic to translate that 'Pay-rate' into actual 'Pay'.

That simple arithmetic shows a huge concession without even considering no profit share.

And as for 'Promptly'... it would not surprise me if that gets interpreted to mean that short-call becomes an On-Property reserve. If anyone thinks that is a ridiculous possible interpretation, then you simply do not know who you are dealing with when it comes to Doug Parker and the 'Labor Relations' team at the new AAmerican Airlines.

 

Take a trip down regional lane if you want to see how arbiters bend language.
I know you will say it will never happen here bit just think back the 7600 floor arbitration for a taste

 

Not a single chance short call is going to be considered a ready reserve. Guys put the crack pipe down.

I too agree had they offered min day it would be a solid yes from most including me. But like others are saying we're not gonna get that anyway...so...

Is there no trip rig ? I'm not that familiar with it being on reserve it doesn't matter right now.

 

There is nothing in the company offer that takes away our rig. I have had numerous 4 day trips with a 36 hour layover that we get a minimum of 20 hours pay. That will not change. The only trips that are not subject to the rig are the all night nighters and the red eyes.

 

Those knuckleheads screwed up any shot of min day with their offer. If they had worked off the company proposal we would have a better offer but that ship has sailed. Min day is gone and the best we have is on front of us. The worst thing would be to say no to the pay and still have that sorry mou. This is why you don't let hardliners like phl reps run a union.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it now...most of the requests Parker has made simply mirror what he was working with under LUS, and it mirrors DL and UA. LUS has more defined short call language than LAA currently has. We have combined divisions, unlike LAA. We don't use LAA's HBT carve outs. We don't do monthly bids (it's as needed).

None of those doom-and-gloom scenarios mentioned are the reality at LUS, so I seriously doubt it'll happen if applied to the LAA side as well. Airport standby as a result of using "promptly" in short-call language? That's nonsense.

Again, if you want to oppose the current deal, that's fine, but do so using facts and reality, not made up hyperbole and dooms-day "what if" scenarios. Seriously, we're not going to be getting check rides during midnight currency sims. We're not going to get furloughed or stagnated for decades from merging I/D fences. We're not going to be flying 8h 58m flights to Europe with two pilots. We're not losing our duty/trip rigs that we currently have...if anything, they'll get very slightly better.

And as for LUS living under LOA93...that was USAPA's doing. You know, the same guys telling you those horror stories listed above and leading the "just say no" campaign?

Again I have no problem if someone says "I don't like the deal because it doesn't have min day". Cool, and that's a legit reason. I don't personally think we'll be able to negotiate for it at this point, but hey, at least you have a real reason to vote it down. But all this other rhetoric? Come on...