what are the 737 trips like?

what are the timelines for sitting reserve in the 747? 12 hour notice? 2 hour notice? Basically I’m just curious how close to your base you’d have to be to still be able to sit from home.

3 types of RSV from my interview notes.
1)home, 5 hrs to gateway, NLT 10 hrs to T/o
2) hotel rsv
3) airport rsv, 90 min to T/o.

I’m sure someone around here clan clean this up but that was the basics. Also, there aren’t reserve lines. They’re built into the lines from what I understand.


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There are definitely reserve lines, they just aren’t necessarily as common or junior. There are complete reserve lines, there are hybrid lines with a mix of reserve and trips, and there are regular lines, which don’t contain reserve assignments. Lines may have layovers long enough to be subject to contactability, which is almost psuedo-reserve but with longer callout, and notification requirements.

Are some air frames more susceptible to reserve lines than others? Do those reserve lines typically go senior and in domicile?


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After trying to keep up with this forum for the past two years, atpcliff’s response to the last question sounds as though there is no pay protection for when Scheduling drops a pilot’s credit below their original award, which unfortunately is no surprise.

On the 767 reserve tends to go more junior for FO’s. Reserve is noticeably more senior on the CA side. Whether or not it’s in domicile completely depends on what you want to bid. We have reserve lines that aren’t even in a base.


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Unfortunately, no. The only pay protection that we have of any kind is monthly guarantee (50 hours first year, 62 thereafter). If you call in sick, our pay is effectively reduced by 3.65 hours off credit per day until you’re at minimum guarantee. Taking vacation in a month will result in guarantee. Having a training event during a month will result in guarantee, unless you agree to come in on your days off, in which case you are paid 3.65 hours per day.

In addition to all of that, scheduling can rearrange your schedule at any point in time (you’re required to check it every 10 hours) in such a way that reduces your pay up to min guarantee.

I’m not here to dissuade people from coming to Atlas (particularly for those who are recently out of a job), but I do want everyone to be prepared for what the reality is here. I can’t emphasize enough how important it is to be able to pay your bills off of monthly guarantee.

This is true. We don't have a lot of the protections which were normal across the regional industry a few years back. The result is people come to work sick, especially in their first year.

All negativity aside, what’s the skinny on the new contract? Is that when they go single certificate? I appreciate the forthright information. I think the reality is with the large flow of people coming over, whether it’s wishful thinking or not, a decent contract could make many choose to stay put. I’m sure that’s said every round though.


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