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Old 12-12-2022 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
True. Also good clarification. Also NFL charters, VIP charters.

Some posts back somebody mentioned we move special types. We just move whoever we're told to move. We're not dedicated to a specific task force or anything like that. I wasn't clear.
Gotcha. I should’ve read the post to which you responded.
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Old 12-12-2022 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Radials Rule
Gotcha. I should’ve read the post to which you responded.
All good. Honestly you're more coherent than about 80% of the stuff I type so its all value added.
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Old 12-12-2022 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rodrigues
Outside of initial training breaks, Atlas are most definitely not commuting guys internationally (Aus or otherwise).
My last sim partner lives in Italy. The company (just) paid for their ticket to/from Italy/MIA for annual recurrent.
The "XXX" gateway program is going away, and we are not sure how that will affect the pilots who live outside the 50 states, with a permanent address outside the 50 states.. It sounds like if you have a US Gateway, your overseas travel options won't change.
To explain this further, if you have a US permanent address (which means US Gateway), and frequently travel, or live overseas, Atlas will (usually), compare the cost of your ticket from your US Gateway to/from wherever they want you to go, to the cost of the ticket from wherever you are, to/from wherever they want you to go, when deciding if they are going to buy a ticket...
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Old 12-20-2022 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
My last sim partner lives in Italy. The company (just) paid for their ticket to/from Italy/MIA for annual recurrent.
The "XXX" gateway program is going away, and we are not sure how that will affect the pilots who live outside the 50 states, with a permanent address outside the 50 states.. It sounds like if you have a US Gateway, your overseas travel options won't change.
To explain this further, if you have a US permanent address (which means US Gateway), and frequently travel, or live overseas, Atlas will (usually), compare the cost of your ticket from your US Gateway to/from wherever they want you to go, to the cost of the ticket from wherever you are, to/from wherever they want you to go, when deciding if they are going to buy a ticket...
Thanks for sharing that. I spoke w several Atlas fellows yesterday in Hann.. Some comments about how, since Apollo purchased Atlas, cost cutting measures were being implemented. It was also mentioned that the “only” international travel Atlas is paying for is to complete training but nothing more. IDK weather something else was communicated to the foreign pilot group when they were hired. Our own foreign pilots here at National have worldwide home-basing with travel paid for by entirely by the company.


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Old 12-20-2022 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
Thanks for sharing that. I spoke w several Atlas fellows yesterday in Hann.. Some comments about how, since Apollo purchased Atlas, cost cutting measures were being implemented. It was also mentioned that the “only” international travel Atlas is paying for is to complete training but nothing more. IDK weather something else was communicated to the foreign pilot group when they were hired. Our own foreign pilots here at National have worldwide home-basing with travel paid for by entirely by the company.


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a) Apollo hasn't purchased Atlas yet
b) There have been no cost cutting measures
c) Atlas pays for intl travel, if the cost is comparable to domestic
d) Our 747 pilots make so much more than National, that you can keep the intl travel. We can pay our own tickets and still be way ahead.
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Old 12-21-2022 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
a) Apollo hasn't purchased Atlas yet
b) There have been no cost cutting measures
c) Atlas pays for intl travel, if the cost is comparable to domestic
d) Our 747 pilots make so much more than National, that you can keep the intl travel. We can pay our own tickets and still be way ahead.
A) My bad for communicating Apollo had purchased. Thanks for the correction. Atlas owned w Atlas initiating the cost cutting. Was told it was being done to improve the numbers for possible purchase by Apollo.
B) I’m just the messenger.
C) The chances of international fares being comparable with domestic is quite low & 0% for round trip tickets to Australia & back for the some 500 Aussies now at Atlas.
D) My second year hourly is $140 but it was $280 per hour for “76” of the 116 hours I flew last month plus DH pay. Before taxes, it was $32,812 for the month of November. This is because the company pays 200% of hourly & (200% of deadheads, normally paid at 50%, so 100% of hourly for DH on GDO/days off worked. Not everyone does it, of course, but for those who do, it has been wonderful. The 200% GDO pay structure has been in effect for about a year. With the addition of two additional 400F’s, I don’t see it being discontinued anytime soon. I am delighted to know that Atlas pilots are making so much more than National pilots.😀[/color]

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Old 12-21-2022 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
A) My bad for communicating Apollo had purchased. Thanks for the correction. Atlas owned w Atlas initiating the cost cutting. Was told it was being done to improve the numbers for possible purchase by Apollo.
B) I’m just the messenger.
C) The chances of international fares being comparable with domestic is quite low & 0% for round trip tickets to Australia & back for the some 500 Aussies now at Atlas.
D) My second year hourly is $140 but it was $280 per hour for “76” of the 116 hours I flew last month plus DH pay. Before taxes, it was $32,812 for the month of November. This is because the company pays 200% of hourly & (200% of deadheads, normally paid at 50%, so 100% of hourly for DH on GDO/days off worked. Not everyone does it, of course, but for those who do, it has been wonderful. The 200% GDO pay structure has been in effect for about a year. With the addition of two additional 400F’s, I don’t see it being discontinued anytime soon. I am delighted to know that Atlas pilots are making so much more than National pilots.😀

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Mate, look mate, I can unequivocally state that dera has and continues to earn more than your last 32k paycheck.

Glad you enjoy it over at Natty - glad things have improved.
Sorry?
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Old 12-21-2022 | 08:33 PM
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We're comparing ACMI to ACMI carriers here. Any of us could easily be hat in hand at each other's place tomorrow. A measuring contest seems a little goofy. Glad you're doing well over there. Maybe we ran into each other at Hahn? I rarely talk work stuff in person, though.
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Old 12-22-2022 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
We're comparing ACMI to ACMI carriers here. Any of us could easily be hat in hand at each other's place tomorrow. A measuring contest seems a little goofy. Glad you're doing well over there. Maybe we ran into each other at Hahn? I rarely talk work stuff in person, though.
Comparing ACMIs is like running in special olympics.
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Old 12-22-2022 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Natca
Mate, look mate, I can unequivocally state that dera has and continues to earn more than your last 32k paycheck.

Glad you enjoy it over at Natty - glad things have improved.
Sorry?
Thanks for the kind input & bravo for Atlas pilots then.

Cheers!


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