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10-02-2015 | 10:28 AM
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10-02-2015 | 11:04 AM
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Give away lucrative business to "help with attrition"? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard; oh, wait... Pilotyip had that idea a while back. I'll say it again, don't you think it would be slightly more logical to control the attrition and GROW our pilot group by demanding an INDUSTRY LEADING CONTRACT so that we can keep all our business and add to it as we please?
10-02-2015 | 03:44 PM
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As a side note this would be atypical for Kalitta to get into a long term agreement.
10-02-2015 | 04:37 PM
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They just voted their TA down by 86%, so even at mesa, things are turning around...
Logic has NOTHING to do with it as far as management is concerned.
Brace yourself for an ugly truth, because MAG's Orenstein said it best in an interview in the 90's concerning his company's poor pay and working conditions and the ability to attract pilots when there's lots of hiring going on elsewhere. It went something like this;
"As long as we have tons of people applying and showing up for class, I'm paying too much........"
Brace yourself for an ugly truth, because MAG's Orenstein said it best in an interview in the 90's concerning his company's poor pay and working conditions and the ability to attract pilots when there's lots of hiring going on elsewhere. It went something like this;
"As long as we have tons of people applying and showing up for class, I'm paying too much........"
10-02-2015 | 07:51 PM
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Only if assigned to the 747. If assigned to the 767, welcome to CVG! Atlas likes to control aircraft assignment rather than allow new hires to bid equipment.
10-03-2015 | 08:30 AM
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But the point STILL STANDS. When you ACTUALLY have a hard time getting resumes and having applicants show up, management will take initiative.
Otherwise, it's simply status quo. Management WONT be in a hurry to get a contact done, and the NC will have to fight like hell to get the gains needed.
10-03-2015 | 09:18 AM
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Yes your point still stands for sure. I'm just saying things are changing some when mesa pilots group is actually asking for better, saying no.
As they should have.......
But the point STILL STANDS. When you ACTUALLY have a hard time getting resumes and having applicants show up, management will take initiative.
Otherwise, it's simply status quo. Management WONT be in a hurry to get a contact done, and the NC will have to fight like hell to get the gains needed.
But the point STILL STANDS. When you ACTUALLY have a hard time getting resumes and having applicants show up, management will take initiative.
Otherwise, it's simply status quo. Management WONT be in a hurry to get a contact done, and the NC will have to fight like hell to get the gains needed.
10-03-2015 | 09:29 AM
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However, RAH also said "NO" last year, and this year. XJT said "NO" last year. Envoy said "NO" TWICE till they got severely leveraged in the BK, etc.
It's nice to see this industry FINALLY coming out of the dark decade and pilots FINALLY having some leverage for once.
Hopefully the Atlas NC can use that as well.
10-03-2015 | 09:46 AM
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Hear hear!
Agree with that point.
However, RAH also said "NO" last year, and this year. XJT said "NO" last year. Envoy said "NO" TWICE till they got severely leveraged in the BK, etc.
It's nice to see this industry FINALLY coming out of the dark decade and pilots FINALLY having some leverage for once.
Hopefully the Atlas NC can use that as well.
However, RAH also said "NO" last year, and this year. XJT said "NO" last year. Envoy said "NO" TWICE till they got severely leveraged in the BK, etc.
It's nice to see this industry FINALLY coming out of the dark decade and pilots FINALLY having some leverage for once.
Hopefully the Atlas NC can use that as well.
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