Originally Posted by DC8 Driver

This battle is going to be won by following the rules to the letter and doing our jobs. Safe taxi speeds, safe de-ice practices, good judgment with use of the parking brake (there's no need to ever block out early) always something more to review, brief; or, some hazmat to visually inspect, good judgment with the use of the APU, never compromising when it comes to your blood sugar and catering needs, using the fatigue risk management program (never compromising safety for profitability), never doing travels (confirming and or calling for transportation) job for them, never doing scheduling's job for them, never doing ANYONE'S job for them, we are not trained in these areas, it's distracts us from our areas of operation and is unsafe. Atlas has very poor organizational structure from middle management down and is and has always been set up to fail. It's only because of the out of the box creative, forward thinking of the flight crews that Atlas is even in business right now, yet alone making record profits and growing into the biggest ACMI on the planet. Well, Purchase has sent a strong signal that they do not recognize the fact that we've been carrying this airline on our backs for decades and it's time to take the weight off our backs. Stop being creative, forward thinking, just be a dumb robot that does what your manuals tell you to do. Carry flight plan fuel, if you have to divert, divert. Don't creatively try and find an outside of the box way to accomplish the mission, it's not your job. When something's broke, write it up (who cares if it's an outstation and they don't have the light bulb) again, not your job. If you don't have cba required catering, don't move the jet (meal vouchers are for losers) and the list goes on. Let purchase see what it's like to have the outside of the box, abstract problem solving component of their crews taken out of the picture, let them feel the pain. Remember, JD and BF have publicly stated that they want to amalgamate our two POS contracts, they haven't once said they're looking forward to amalgamating their executive Atlas compensation with Southern's execs... STOP THE HYPOCRACY! be professional, do your jobs, leave nothing unturned.

Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck

And before you roast new hires for coming here and causing you inconveniences in your career, don't forget that you were a newhire once too....

Originally Posted by DC8 Driver

This battle is going to be won by following the rules to the letter and doing our jobs. Safe taxi speeds, safe de-ice practices, good judgment with use of the parking brake (there's no need to ever block out early) always something more to review, brief; or, some hazmat to visually inspect, good judgment with the use of the APU, never compromising when it comes to your blood sugar and catering needs, using the fatigue risk management program (never compromising safety for profitability), never doing travels (confirming and or calling for transportation) job for them, never doing scheduling's job for them, never doing ANYONE'S job for them, we are not trained in these areas, it's distracts us from our areas of operation and is unsafe. Atlas has very poor organizational structure from middle management down and is and has always been set up to fail. It's only because of the out of the box creative, forward thinking of the flight crews that Atlas is even in business right now, yet alone making record profits and growing into the biggest ACMI on the planet. Well, Purchase has sent a strong signal that they do not recognize the fact that we've been carrying this airline on our backs for decades and it's time to take the weight off our backs. Stop being creative, forward thinking, just be a dumb robot that does what your manuals tell you to do. Carry flight plan fuel, if you have to divert, divert. Don't creatively try and find an outside of the box way to accomplish the mission, it's not your job. When something's broke, write it up (who cares if it's an outstation and they don't have the light bulb) again, not your job. If you don't have cba required catering, don't move the jet (meal vouchers are for losers) and the list goes on. Let purchase see what it's like to have the outside of the box, abstract problem solving component of their crews taken out of the picture, let them feel the pain. Remember, JD and BF have publicly stated that they want to amalgamate our two POS contracts, they haven't once said they're looking forward to amalgamating their executive Atlas compensation with Southern's execs... STOP THE HYPOCRACY! be professional, do your jobs, leave nothing unturned.

Originally Posted by DC8 Driver

This battle is going to be won by following the rules to the letter and doing our jobs. Safe taxi speeds, safe de-ice practices, good judgment with use of the parking brake (there's no need to ever block out early) always something more to review, brief; or, some hazmat to visually inspect, good judgment with the use of the APU, never compromising when it comes to your blood sugar and catering needs, using the fatigue risk management program (never compromising safety for profitability), never doing travels (confirming and or calling for transportation) job for them, never doing scheduling's job for them, never doing ANYONE'S job for them, we are not trained in these areas, it's distracts us from our areas of operation and is unsafe. Atlas has very poor organizational structure from middle management down and is and has always been set up to fail. It's only because of the out of the box creative, forward thinking of the flight crews that Atlas is even in business right now, yet alone making record profits and growing into the biggest ACMI on the planet. Well, Purchase has sent a strong signal that they do not recognize the fact that we've been carrying this airline on our backs for decades and it's time to take the weight off our backs. Stop being creative, forward thinking, just be a dumb robot that does what your manuals tell you to do. Carry flight plan fuel, if you have to divert, divert. Don't creatively try and find an outside of the box way to accomplish the mission, it's not your job. When something's broke, write it up (who cares if it's an outstation and they don't have the light bulb) again, not your job. If you don't have cba required catering, don't move the jet (meal vouchers are for losers) and the list goes on. Let purchase see what it's like to have the outside of the box, abstract problem solving component of their crews taken out of the picture, let them feel the pain. Remember, JD and BF have publicly stated that they want to amalgamate our two POS contracts, they haven't once said they're looking forward to amalgamating their executive Atlas compensation with Southern's execs... STOP THE HYPOCRACY! be professional, do your jobs, leave nothing unturned.

Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck

Sorry NightIP, but that is literally conjecture. I am not arguing that they may very well try this, but until you have heard someone from management say they want us to take paycuts, you really don't know what they are going to do. That's not to say there isn't a good likelihood, but you can't make blanket statements based on pure speculation like that and expect people to take your post seriously.

And before you roast new hires for coming here and causing you inconveniences in your career, don't forget that you were a newhire once too....

Originally Posted by captainv

JD told the ExCo he wants an amalgamated contract when they merge Atlas and Southern.

Just curious - what do you think that means?

Originally Posted by NightIP

I'm sorry, I can't help myself with this one.

This is about OUR career, not selfish whining. I've served as a volunteer for this pilot group for 3 years, and most of the guys posting here are also committee volunteers. Get your mind right; we're spreading this information for the betterment of every single Atlas pilot, present and future.

I encourage anyone off IOE to find ways to contribute, as well (nothing confrontational until you're off probation).

Originally Posted by JerrySpringer

I seriously can't believe the posts you're writing. You were hired in September and already are telling those of us with years in this company what are ants and elephants?

That's insulting.