Atlas Air Hiring
03-17-2024 | 06:39 AM
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From: Paahlot
Long term? Atlas
Short term? Either one is you’re planning on leaving within two years anyway.
Atlas has a better long term future with the more diversified flying.
Next two years will be a bit of a cluster while Apollo figures out it’s a-hole from its elbow.
Short term? Either one is you’re planning on leaving within two years anyway.
Atlas has a better long term future with the more diversified flying.
Next two years will be a bit of a cluster while Apollo figures out it’s a-hole from its elbow.
03-20-2024 | 10:15 PM
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04-01-2024 | 02:59 AM
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Here's a data point on hiring timeline for anyone wondering. I think the hiring team is working farther out now though.
2/6 - Completed application
2/13 - Phone screen
2/19 Company presentation
2/28 - Interview
2/29 - CJO
4/14 - Class date 777
2/6 - Completed application
2/13 - Phone screen
2/19 Company presentation
2/28 - Interview
2/29 - CJO
4/14 - Class date 777
04-01-2024 | 04:04 AM
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CJO may not happen the next day, especially if there is anything that needs review, e.g. incomplete logbooks, medical about to expire, temporary licenses, etc.
Class assignments are now a few months out, with the exception of those that are available ASAP who might be assigned openings that pop up.
04-03-2024 | 10:41 AM
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Doesn't really matter anyway as they will pay for all your commuting expenses and arrange flights and hotel; there is virtually no commuting stress at all. That is one of the great attractions of flying for Atlas.
04-03-2024 | 06:01 PM
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Does matter if said person lives there. Best of any world to live in base; otherwise, yes your statement is almost perfect.
04-05-2024 | 07:30 PM
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Ok, many, many things going on here in your post. Let me say this, and don’t take this the wrong way dude. I am saying this merely to help you going forward, not trying to drag you down. Only trying to build you up.
121 is the big leagues. It’s not general aviation CFI work anymore. I was also a CFI in the beginning of my career. Took my job very seriously and always tried to apply the fundamentals of instruction 100% of the time. I had a pass rate similar to yours. When I went to my regional, I knew going in to not expect many of the instructors to have a passion for teaching. And turns out, many of them didn’t. There were a few that I could tell truly enjoyed teaching. But what I’ve learned is that airline training is a freaking firehose, and they really do not have time to teach you everything. A part of the test for you in training and on the line is seeing how much initiative you take. Did you prepare for the flight that morning or the night before in the hotel room? Or were you out at the bar till 1am? Did you go over the company pages, look over the expected arrivals/approaches/departures, expected taxi routing, etc. etc. etc. etc? Did you look over the weather to expect? Did you chair fly your callouts/profiles?
They certainly do expect you to fill in the gaps a lot. I disagreed with that mentality at first, but as I got deeper into the program and got to the line, I started to realize that as professionals, we have to strive to be the best we can. It’s expected of us. Every single day. Learn as much as we can. Every single flight. This comes in the form of self-debriefs. Self-critiques. Take what you learned with helping students in GA, and aggressively apply that to helping yourself get through your first 121 job. There are gonna be plenty of days when you will feel behind. It happens to all of us. With time and experience in a jet, you will begin to feel very confident.
121 is a completely different animal than 91 GA. There’s very little comparison to be honest. And yea you may sometimes get unlucky and have a real douche bag of an instructor/check airmen, etc. I’ve had plenty of them. I know it sucks. But whatever you do, do not blame them for your failures. Period. It will not help you. At all. I am saying this in hopes that you take it and learn from it.
121 is the big leagues. It’s not general aviation CFI work anymore. I was also a CFI in the beginning of my career. Took my job very seriously and always tried to apply the fundamentals of instruction 100% of the time. I had a pass rate similar to yours. When I went to my regional, I knew going in to not expect many of the instructors to have a passion for teaching. And turns out, many of them didn’t. There were a few that I could tell truly enjoyed teaching. But what I’ve learned is that airline training is a freaking firehose, and they really do not have time to teach you everything. A part of the test for you in training and on the line is seeing how much initiative you take. Did you prepare for the flight that morning or the night before in the hotel room? Or were you out at the bar till 1am? Did you go over the company pages, look over the expected arrivals/approaches/departures, expected taxi routing, etc. etc. etc. etc? Did you look over the weather to expect? Did you chair fly your callouts/profiles?
They certainly do expect you to fill in the gaps a lot. I disagreed with that mentality at first, but as I got deeper into the program and got to the line, I started to realize that as professionals, we have to strive to be the best we can. It’s expected of us. Every single day. Learn as much as we can. Every single flight. This comes in the form of self-debriefs. Self-critiques. Take what you learned with helping students in GA, and aggressively apply that to helping yourself get through your first 121 job. There are gonna be plenty of days when you will feel behind. It happens to all of us. With time and experience in a jet, you will begin to feel very confident.
121 is a completely different animal than 91 GA. There’s very little comparison to be honest. And yea you may sometimes get unlucky and have a real douche bag of an instructor/check airmen, etc. I’ve had plenty of them. I know it sucks. But whatever you do, do not blame them for your failures. Period. It will not help you. At all. I am saying this in hopes that you take it and learn from it.
04-07-2024 | 01:11 PM
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From: Paahlot
121 is a completely different animal than 91 GA. There’s very little compassion to be honest.
Its the Law of Averages.
Average training designed to get the average pilot through at average cost with an average wash-out rate.
Sometimes the Law of Unintended Consequences gets designated PIC.
04-07-2024 | 06:31 PM
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Dang, that is so spot on especially when one of the leftover dummies (when the Capt rests) must sign the PIC times on the paperwork. Always pointing to the senior FO (me) as I tell them you really want to go with the lowest common denominator of complacency. 
My responsibilities are specifically to be the Capts seeing eye dog on the ground when traveling commercially (airline, train, limo) to proper hotels through Europe or Asia - that's it!
*Your extracurricular activities after rest is solely up to you. We can chill over some grub and libations.
My responsibilities are specifically to be the Capts seeing eye dog on the ground when traveling commercially (airline, train, limo) to proper hotels through Europe or Asia - that's it!*Your extracurricular activities after rest is solely up to you. We can chill over some grub and libations.
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