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Old 02-04-2024, 07:57 AM
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You have received a lot of frank and accurate advice here. You have had a significant set back and need a recovery plan. Here is some more advice;

If you haven't already, consult one of the professional interview prep sources, e.g. Raven or Emerald Coast. One of their specialties is helping folks recover from situations such as yours.

After taking their advice, put yourself back out there pursuing the best job you can get (probably not 121 right away). Learn from your failures, adapt to whatever training system you encounter.
I suspect you are young, there is time to recover.

Additionally, avoid falling into a common trap which starts like this;

"My friend got hired with the same experience and Xx number of hours, so I am entitled to a job offer"

"I know so and so failed his ATP ride and he still got an RJ job, so why can't I"

Concentrate on your own situation and a recovering plan, don't worry about others.

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Old 02-05-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tn36 View Post
Anyone hear about the status of the Pathway Program lately? I applied in early October and did the phone screen + HR presentation shortly after and was told I was recommended for interview, but haven't gotten the invite for a technical interview yet. I contacted my recruiter and he basically told me to sit tight and keep waiting without any more detail. I've been hearing of non-pathways applicants lately getting interviewed and hired pretty quickly on wide-bodies, so I'm wondering if the 737 process is normally slower or if maybe they're still debating even interviewing me. Anyone in the same boat/know anything? Thanks!
I think hiring is slowing down. The past month or two their haven't been many 73 new hire classes and there is only 1 planned for this month. So yeah, might just have to play the waiting game. We are also in the process of bringing the ATP in house, at least for the 73. I don't know if it's done or not, but maybe that is playing a role in the transition from 3rd party to in house. If anything, it doesn't hurt to bug the recruiter every few weeks to request an update.
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Old 02-06-2024, 05:54 AM
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Interview coming up. If I'm lucky enough to get the job and they ask what aircraft I would prefer what would be the best in my circumstances. I will be commuting from DTW to CVG (ideally) and want to be working when I'm gone and don't care about overnights in base because I won't be going home anyways if it's just a day or an overnight back in base. 74 is intriguing because she's the queen and also the triple 7. Don't really care for the 73. What do you guys thing I should pick in my case. Whats the rotations like on the 74 out of CVG?
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Old 02-06-2024, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeRJay View Post
Interview coming up. If I'm lucky enough to get the job and they ask what aircraft I would prefer what would be the best in my circumstances. I will be commuting from DTW to CVG (ideally) and want to be working when I'm gone and don't care about overnights in base because I won't be going home anyways if it's just a day or an overnight back in base. 74 is intriguing because she's the queen and also the triple 7. Don't really care for the 73. What do you guys thing I should pick in my case. Whats the rotations like on the 74 out of CVG?
Why not commute to ORD on the 747?
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Old 02-06-2024, 08:33 AM
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Why not commute to ORD on the 747?
Figured CVG was more junior. ORD is still an option too.
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Old 02-06-2024, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SeeRJay View Post
Figured CVG was more junior. ORD is still an option too.
11/23 new hire can get ORD already.
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Old 02-06-2024, 11:38 AM
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CVG 74 flying is predominantly Asia runs at this time. Some Mexico runs, domestic runs, a hit or miss S. America run but that's the norm based on the vast schedule changes the 74 generates. ORD has the Australia, definitely more Europe and of course heavy Asia runs as well to include the Mexico runs and hit or miss S. America. Everything subject to change and as a new hire I'm unsure what you might get, but I have flown with new hires who were gap fillers to some really good locations in Europe vs the standard Asia that ANC/LAX bases are stovepiped too. Easiest commute is preferred of course and perhaps going to the same places mostly and learning the ropes would be better the first year or two before the shotgun effect out in the system. Somewhat a crap shoot at times.
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Old 02-06-2024, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by C17B74 View Post
CVG 74 flying is predominantly Asia runs at this time. Some Mexico runs, domestic runs, a hit or miss S. America run but that's the norm based on the vast schedule changes the 74 generates. ORD has the Australia, definitely more Europe and of course heavy Asia runs as well to include the Mexico runs and hit or miss S. America. Everything subject to change and as a new hire I'm unsure what you might get, but I have flown with new hires who were gap fillers to some really good locations in Europe vs the standard Asia that ANC/LAX bases are stovepiped too. Easiest commute is preferred of course and perhaps going to the same places mostly and learning the ropes would be better the first year or two before the shotgun effect out in the system. Somewhat a crap shoot at times.
Thanks for all the great info! Should a new hire plan on working 17 in a row and off 13? Maybe better than that some months but is that the norm? Plan for min credit? Or 74 fly enough to credit more than min?
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Old 02-06-2024, 01:29 PM
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Hey guys! Recently got a phone screen invite with Atlas. few questions:

1. I've heard multiple people mention that they're moving the ATP ride in house for the 737. That should allow for applicants with 25 hours of multi to get in the door. Anyone know if this is actually going on yet? I'm sure the phone screen will clarify this.
2. How long to hold a line as a 737 FO?
3. Any idea how long it is to start training assuming successful interview?

Sorry if these are dumb questions.
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Old 02-06-2024, 03:06 PM
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1. Don’t know
2. Right out off OE (I think)
3. Couple of months

About the 25 hrs multi…….
Minimum requirements are for hiring, not for success.
Noodling around in a Seminole for a little bit does not prepare you for doing V1 cuts in the sim.
I’ve got a 73 type and I’ll be the first one to tell you I couldn’t have done that with 25hrs ME.
Its simply too far apart, flying jets is a different universe form flying pistons.
Unless I go blaming the training department of course.
What my friendly word of caution really means is….do not assume that little experience is a recipe for success.
Pick a random regional for a year, get 500hrs jet and two trainings events under your belt then come over to the 76
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