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Old 12-12-2013 | 12:41 PM
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UPS, and to some extent FDX (with their narrow-body vs wide-body pay rates) have already figured that out...

But ALPo (!!) drives these things and they have traditionally been for pay differential, 12-year pay scales, etc.
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Old 12-12-2013 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
Yes, the company can waive any seat locks, equipments locks, etc at their convenience...

ultradrvr,
I would modify your statement by adding that seat locks being released is significant ONLY if there are vacancies on a higher paying aircraft...IMHO.
we're losing 35-40 a year to retirements, correct? even without new equipment or hiring, there will be vacancies eventually.
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Old 12-12-2013 | 04:40 PM
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Closer to 25 but some will medical out before 65.
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Old 12-12-2013 | 05:04 PM
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Air freight all about value: Atlas Air CEO
CNBC Videos 3 hrs ago 2:44
Bill Flynn, CEO of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, discusses how innovation of larger smartphones could impact air cargo companies.

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000226228
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Old 12-12-2013 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Seat locks are released if a new, higher-paying type shows up. Thus, a 767 FO under seat lock could bid, say, 777 FO, while a 747 FO under seat lock could not. Bidding a different type incurs another 3-year seat lock, but it's waived for an upgrade.
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Yes, the company can waive any seat locks, equipments locks, etc at
Thanks for the clarification gents.

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Old 12-13-2013 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Talon1011
The thread is again drifting from a valuable hiring aid into a version of Flightinfo.com. It's OK to vent and our first amendment rights are alive and well (at least on these forums if not in our nation any more) but that sort of thing belongs in its own thread.
Thank you Talon! The admirable and noticed difference between this thread and most others on APC is its cordial conversation and 700+ pages later and we are still on point thanks to moderators like you and 744 and a few others. Thank you all for keeping this thread on its track!

This time last year there was a "dead zone" for hiring/classes as well, then a few days before Christmas the calls started coming in for the "Christmas present class." Not guaranteeing it will happen again like that this year but the "dead zone" is not new to Atlas. Hang in there, this company is intending on being successful and that comes with growth so movement will come soon enough. Your swimming days will soon be just a distant memory.
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Old 12-13-2013 | 10:52 AM
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We lose on average 35 a year to retirement for the next few years.

We lose on average 18 a year to long-term disability.
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Old 12-13-2013 | 10:59 AM
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Atlas Air provides value with 747 freighters, CEO says
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Old 12-13-2013 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by worldfr8dog
Thank you Talon! The admirable and noticed difference between this thread and most others on APC is its cordial conversation and 700+ pages later and we are still on point thanks to moderators like you and 744 and a few others. Thank you all for keeping this thread on its track!

This time last year there was a "dead zone" for hiring/classes as well, then a few days before Christmas the calls started coming in for the "Christmas present class." Not guaranteeing it will happen again like that this year but the "dead zone" is not new to Atlas. Hang in there, this company is intending on being successful and that comes with growth so movement will come soon enough. Your swimming days will soon be just a distant memory.

Hope you're right! I think I speak for all the poolies when I say I'm getting a little anxious after a few months swimming. Can't imagine the guys who have been swimming since march.
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Old 12-13-2013 | 01:19 PM
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Any opinions how much attrition Atlas will see in 2014 from the Legacies hiring?
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