Precisely my point Whalefr8. Thank you.

 

Has anyone heard more news of upcoming interviews? About 3 weeks ago I was specifically told by HR that there were 8 people left in the pool. I hope that they are unable to conduct interviews prior to another class because it will force them to call some of the poor folks that have been stuck in it for over a year and keep getting pushed down when interviews occur. I was told that was changing but it definitely has not. I'm right at about 6 months on waiting so I sure can't complain, just hoping to get information for everyone.

 

Atlasslave I find it interesting that when the AQP issue is brought up the subject of 'how' we are trained is more important than what we 'receive' for going to training. Just an observation.

Divider was mentioned above, debatable. Question. Is a divider one that voices his/her concern and is then pounced on by individuals in the know? Or is the divider the one that pounces simply because the information leaked out before the time was right for them? Just curious

Cargowannabe

 

A suggestion for all. Why don't the individuals that want to debate the Union at Atlas start another thread and let the ones that want to work at Atlas use this thread to gather information?

I don't know the name of the thread is Atlas Air Hiring......

Heck I will even volunteer to start it!

Cargowannabe

 

I would of said "vote for me to start a new thread" but that may be considered campaigning. Just kidding

 

The 800.

We are a talented bunch.

We have come from all facets of the business. Many have led unions at other airlines. Negotiated great contracts at other airlines. We have been First Officers, Captains, Instructors and Evaluators before.

We have come from companies still in business, and no longer in business. We might be here of our own choosing or due to management teams unable to keep their business a profitable entity.

We understand finances and how profitable this mature company is.

We are well aware of what we are worth, what value our time is worth and the value we bring the company.

We also can understand policy decisions that affect only those that are not in our 800.

We are strong, we are smart, we are one.

We are the 800.

This is an invitation to the 200. Join us. Let us look out for ourselves. Let's cease being The 800 and be the 1000.

 

AQP will bring rules on the process that currently are sorely lacking. V1 cut and you fail or do you get another chance or even some training depends on the time remaining or even the individual Sim Check Airman. Under AQP it is train to proficiency even during the validation of maneuvers period, much more appropriate at this level of the game and does not generate pink slips like the process in place now. Just like the other major airlines in the industry. I agree we are not paid enough to go to training, and it must be addressed in the next contract.

A divider is one who disagrees with the leadership and actively works against those duly elected officials empowered by the membership. Anyone is, obviously, welcome to disagree. When a member takes on work for the leadership and then actively, and inappropriately releases privileged information, that person is a divider due to the seeds of doubt that are sown into the membership from a person the membership considers to be in a position of trust. If a person does not agree with the leadership, fine, but do not take on a position of responsibility and then actively work against the official leadership from within! Do your work, follow the CBA and have your opinion, but do not work against what is after all YOUR leadership too. It breaks our solidarity and no group can afford it; especially not ours.

PLEASE start a new thread Cargowannabe....I am new to posting and would likely mess it up.

 

+1 This thread is drifting into a version of Flightinfo.com

 

Exemplary post of what is wrong.

It's guys like you that are the problem. You assume cargowannabe is some new pilot to the industry and talk down to him. I know he has more union experience and definitely knows what AQP is. Perhaps assumptions of the 200 should be replaced with questions.

It is incredibly important that applicants understand the culture of this organization. We are competing with Delta, United, American, Hawaiian, Alaska, FedEx and UPS for pilots.

 

Are you kidding? I assumed nothing. A guy asks me a question and I answer it fully and you say I am talking down to someone? I am simply giving my opinion to one who asked for it; I have no idea who is senior and who is junior either at Atlas or in the industry. It is my opinion; nothing more.

Please flesh out your response above as to what you mean "...exemplary post of what is wrong." I am part of the problem for advocating we follow our elected leadership? Surely you are joking. One of the hallmarks of a good leader is that person's ability to be a good follower when not in charge. Which are you?

BTW, I totally agree with you on your 800-200 post. Many more of the 200 agree with you than you give credit. I would only say it is more like 900-100 for your theory; in my opinion. I am not part of the problem any more than you are...SOLIDARITY is our mutual problem and we need our entire group to get to this important fact instead of dividing the intelligent and qualified group of which we are both members.