Atlas Air Hiring
08-21-2014, 03:09 PM
#9261
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid
How will AQP cost the company more $$? FSDO doesn't want it? Every other airline in the USA does it by now probably...
If we step to the company and say we don't want it, they'll say "Ask and you shall receive."
Not really the issue to dig in on IMO
08-21-2014, 03:27 PM
#9262
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
There's an extra sim period and therefore an extra day of training. So a thousand lost man days and another several hundred thousand dollars of sim expenses not to mention the attendant increase in instructor pay.
If we step to the company and say we don't want it, they'll say "Ask and you shall receive."
Not really the issue to dig in on IMO
If we step to the company and say we don't want it, they'll say "Ask and you shall receive."
Not really the issue to dig in on IMO
08-21-2014, 06:57 PM
#9263
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AQP costing the company MORE money is completely incorrect. When AQP is rolled out at an airline, the savings is around 17% of training cost on the nine month cycle. Once AQP has been established at an airline, the cycle time can increase to 12 months. At that point, a company can plan to save approximatley 6% in additional costs. The bottom line is that the company wants AQP because it helps their bottom line. Now, they may act like they don't want it but if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
08-21-2014, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
AQP costing the company MORE money is completely incorrect. When AQP is rolled out at an airline, the savings is around 17% of training cost on the nine month cycle. Once AQP has been established at an airline, the cycle time can increase to 12 months. At that point, a company can plan to save approximatley 6% in additional costs. The bottom line is that the company wants AQP because it helps their bottom line. Now, they may act like they don't want it but if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
08-21-2014, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Whalefr8
Have you called and asked any of them? I think there are five guys on the Executive Board right? If I didn't trust them as you seem not to, I would call one of them and ask about AQP, breakfast, and trip trades. I know I heard a guy with one of the communicaiton lanyards talking about breakfast on a flight a couple of days ago.
Perhaps you should pass word along that many of us have lots of 121 and union experience outside of Atlas. Perhaps our words, thoughts and ideas should not be summarily dismissed and trashed (similarly to your 'reply' to me. Other than continued display of the gross disconnect you seem to have with the majority of pilots in this company).
08-22-2014, 03:48 AM
#9266
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Originally Posted by JerrySpringer
Unless one has a 3 or 4 digit part number, the individual is berated and talked down to (very similar to your writing style even) about every issue.
Perhaps you should pass word along that many of us have lots of 121 and union experience outside of Atlas. Perhaps our words, thoughts and ideas should not be summarily dismissed and trashed (similarly to your 'reply' to me. Other than continued display of the gross disconnect you seem to have with the majority of pilots in this company).
Perhaps you should pass word along that many of us have lots of 121 and union experience outside of Atlas. Perhaps our words, thoughts and ideas should not be summarily dismissed and trashed (similarly to your 'reply' to me. Other than continued display of the gross disconnect you seem to have with the majority of pilots in this company).
Last edited by C5nwhaleguy; 08-22-2014 at 04:20 AM.
08-22-2014, 04:47 AM
#9267
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Originally Posted by C5nwhaleguy
Springer i think we can all recognize whalefr8 is defending a sinking ship at this company as evident by his gross disconnect and a bygone dinosaur era insecurities at this once proud "club". Retirements cant come any sooner.
There arent that many, very few in my experience but those few notable Captians
need to know that being a bully is unacceptable and will no longer be tollerated. I see more and more FOs that aren't afraid to write up the 1%er captian who has unsat CRM. The company cant afford to ignore it anymore. Sometimes just the statement, "Are we going to have a problem with CRM today?" 
changes the situation.
08-22-2014, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
AQP costing the company MORE money is completely incorrect. When AQP is rolled out at an airline, the savings is around 17% of training cost on the nine month cycle. Once AQP has been established at an airline, the cycle time can increase to 12 months. At that point, a company can plan to save approximatley 6% in additional costs. The bottom line is that the company wants AQP because it helps their bottom line. Now, they may act like they don't want it but if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
08-22-2014, 07:06 AM
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During my recent PC a young guy who is spear heading the AQP program ( who will probably be at Delta before this thing is ever brought to fruition) said that the program was presented to the company as a cost neutral proposition. I'm just sayin
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08-22-2014, 09:26 AM
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So, now we have become so "sensitive", that simply asking for facts to back up breakfast table BS is bullying. A lot of stuff was said that is BS and those involved know it. They float the BS so the table gets it and then when it is said more than five times, it becomes fact.
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