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Old 08-22-2014, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Vertigo1960 View Post
This is still the best thread for Atlas Hiring, right??? Seems to be drifting to negotiations. While it is useful to see some of the dynamics going on, is some of this better suited for the Union thread also on this board?

For those at Giant, good luck with your next contract. For those wanting to go to Giant...good luck with information gathering.
My point exactly. The more space here that is taken up with Union bickering the less is available for information provided to prospective Atlas pilots. Obviously there is a valuable discussion to be had about internal union negotiation. That belongs in a separate thread. This thread is about how to get hired at Atlas. Pilots who are looking for information about this place are intelligent enough to look on both threads.

For the record, I am a 5+ year pilot here and am enjoying life immensely. Are there things that can improve? Of course there are. Are things better here than they were at my previous existence? Eminently. Please don't let the thrashings you read here cloud your thinking. Atlas is a good place to be. It could be a better place to be. Come along on board and be a part of making it better!!
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
For what it's worth I agree with you but the rumor I heard was that when that idea was floated by the company they responded with offering $1 a day extra. Just a line rumor and I have zero idea how true that is... My point is that you're not the only one who feels that way.
The deal was $1 an hour extra, but the company wanted to include the Polar grievance as part of the settlement. The ExCo can not speak for the Ex-Polar guys. Deal then fell apart.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:16 PM
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The deal was $1 an hour extra, but the company wanted to include the Polar grievance as part of the settlement. The ExCo can not speak for the Ex-Polar guys. Deal then fell apart.
$1 an hour should've been an easy yes. That'd be $24 a day. There's no way I'm going through $24 a day in breakfast. If we can't get together and say "yes" to things like that then we've got issues.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Whaledriver View Post
The deal was $1 an hour extra, but the company wanted to include the Polar grievance as part of the settlement. The ExCo can not speak for the Ex-Polar guys. Deal then fell apart.
I agree with Globemaster. If what you're saying is correct then $24 is more than enough for breakfast. Eat it or save it, your choice. On a 15 day trip that's another $360 of tax free $ or a lot of buffets. Either way, problem solved.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
$1 an hour should've been an easy yes. That'd be $24 a day. There's no way I'm going through $24 a day in breakfast. If we can't get together and say "yes" to things like that then we've got issues.
If true, that should have been a NO brainer! Our Union MUST always represent the majority and protect at all cost the last seniority number. IMHO, anyway.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Talon1011 View Post
My point exactly. The more space here that is taken up with Union bickering the less is available for information provided to prospective Atlas pilots. Obviously there is a valuable discussion to be had about internal union negotiation. That belongs in a separate thread. This thread is about how to get hired at Atlas. Pilots who are looking for information about this place are intelligent enough to look on both threads.

For the record, I am a 5+ year pilot here and am enjoying life immensely. Are there things that can improve? Of course there are. Are things better here than they were at my previous existence? Eminently. Please don't let the thrashings you read here cloud your thinking. Atlas is a good place to be. It could be a better place to be. Come along on board and be a part of making it better!!
Well if its for the record..... isn't it more like 4+ years... its my recollection you were hired in the spring of 2010.... just saying.... for the record.
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Old 08-23-2014, 02:17 AM
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Please read Whaledriver's entire answer. He said that it was offered but tied to canceling the separate Polar breakfast grievance also, that they did not have the authority to do. So not the no brainer your saying. My question is did the Exco ask the Polar side if that was an option to move forward for the good of the whole pilot group? Close to 400 a month per pilot would have been nice.
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Old 08-23-2014, 03:00 AM
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Assuming the above scenario is correct, they did not have to ask. Just put it out to the (new, combined) membership for ratification. Not saying it was the all around best way, but that would have sufficed. Plus, they did not even ask (poll) the former Polar group.

SSDD, they just do what they want.
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130 View Post
Well if its for the record..... isn't it more like 4+ years... its my recollection you were hired in the spring of 2010.... just saying.... for the record.
True indeed. To be precise, this is the middle of my 5th year. That's what I get for typing after flying a taco run the night before!
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Old 08-23-2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Talon1011 View Post
My point exactly. The more space here that is taken up with Union bickering the less is available for information provided to prospective Atlas pilots. Obviously there is a valuable discussion to be had about internal union negotiation. That belongs in a separate thread. This thread is about how to get hired at Atlas. Pilots who are looking for information about this place are intelligent enough to look on both threads.

For the record, I am a 5+ year pilot here and am enjoying life immensely. Are there things that can improve? Of course there are. Are things better here than they were at my previous existence? Eminently. Please don't let the thrashings you read here cloud your thinking. Atlas is a good place to be. It could be a better place to be. Come along on board and be a part of making it better!!
Yep, two good posts here about keeping things on topic and then it slips back into negotiation talks again. I've asked twice for a copy of the CBA so I can familiarize myself with the work rules at Atlas, both times to no avail.

Is there anyone here who could PM me a copy of the contract? If so I would appreciate it!
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