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Old 09-26-2018, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kevair464 View Post
Some companies require a re-current contract as well.

An example:

Company A required a 1 year initial type pro-rated contract on new hires.

Company A then requires a 6 month contract be signed for each re-current class.

For PICs, this means you have two very small windows per year to seek new employment without being on the hook for $$$.

I can see Initial type contracts as these are pricey and the true "value" to the pilot. But re-current contracts? Isn't that just part of the price of doing business?

How does one get a new job without incurring costs if you are literally under contract forever? Unless of course you refuse to do currency training
Some recurrents are 5,000 some are 50,000 and this could be a factor but also Some operators are not willing to gamble especially if they know they are paying less than industry standard.
If it is a desirable sought after place to work then there will not be a need for a contract.
But, a person only has his word and should stand behind it.

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Old 09-29-2018, 06:20 PM
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I am going to break my contract with my 135. Its a realllly big amount. Am I screwed or is there actually always a way to get out? One reason I am, originally it was suppose to be half the time even as they advertised on their job posting on their website but when I already turned down other positions and moved for the job, boom double the time... Any good attorney recommendations? hopefully I can find one that has never had a client pay out.

Thanks!
I left my previous scumbag operator and I had a fairly large contract. I found greener pastures with another operator that flew the same type that I really wanted to work for. I was able to negotiate with the new operator a initial hiring bonus of about 75% what my previous operators contract was because I already had the type. I wasn't sure if scumbag op would pursue the contract until I was called by a collection agency soon after I left. I took my fresh hiring bonus and some other funds I could scrape together and paid off my contract (in-full) to collection agency free and clear with no effect to my credit rating. BEFORE I considered any of the above I talked to a family member who is actually a contract attorney and told me even if I win the case, an out of state lawyer and fees could be well beyond what the original contract $ was for. Short story=prepare to pay contract in full or sit it out until expiration. I thank myself everyday for busting my previous contract. Has saved my life and my certificate!! Of course your results may vary. Good luck!

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Old 09-29-2018, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Ouch.

Reminds me of the guy that logged time in numbers he saw on the ramp. One turned out to be an inspector's personal airplane. The same inspector giving him the check ride...
Now that story is BS and has been making the rounds for 30+ years.
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Old 09-30-2018, 01:58 AM
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Now that story is BS and has been making the rounds for 30+ years.
It's been around in a lot of different forms for a lot longer than that, but it's not BS.

It was actually relayed to me in person by an inspector during a check ride, regarding his own personal airplane. I'm sure it's not the only time it's happened.
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Old 09-30-2018, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
It's been around in a lot of different forms for a lot longer than that, but it's not BS.

It was actually relayed to me in person by an inspector during a check ride, regarding his own personal airplane. I'm sure it's not the only time it's happened.
I was told the same story by an 80-year old FAA POI while he was trying to find a reason to fail me on a asst. Chief 141 ride.
It’s been making the rounds.
Does t really matter if it’s true or not, it just signals a certain attitude.
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Old 09-30-2018, 10:29 AM
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Nobody could fool Inspector Badflaps with phony logbook entries. He knew all of the tail numbers by heart, because they were single digits. 😁
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Old 09-30-2018, 12:31 PM
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Because the Wrights only built a couple!
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
Now that story is BS and has been making the rounds for 30+ years.
But it's happened more than once, and there are only a relative handful of GA airplanes in smaller communities so I'm sure somebody has been caught.
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
I was told the same story by an 80-year old FAA POI while he was trying to find a reason to fail me on a asst. Chief 141 ride.
It’s been making the rounds.
Does t really matter if it’s true or not, it just signals a certain attitude.
Yes, one of my examiners told the same story. Which I dutifully relayed to kids who I examined.
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:53 AM
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Because the Wrights only built a couple!
Not true. There were three.

The red one was a dog.
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