[Breeze] Airways
#4891
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There's two type of lost decade pilots out there. There's one who genuinely happy for all the success that the young generation is seeing, and that I would be happy to sling gear and do a walk around in the snow for any day of the week. Then there's the ones like Margaritaville, that had a supbar career and actively hopes for the downfall of anyone that didn't have to "put in their dues" like he did. Let me guess, "back in your day you had to have shuttle landings to get an interview"? Haven't heard that one before.
I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"
Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"
Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
#4892
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It’s the same three that post on here wishing the demise of Breeze. Went from saying you’ll never make it off the ground, they did. Went from never going to work, folks are loving Breeze. Went from “Skywest” pay to 250+ an hour. Went from you’re losing tons of money you still won’t make it, to oh we’ll margins are better but you still won’t make money. Fact is they just made profit last few months. Breeze is growing, 500+ pilots 90+ planes on order. You guys are still saying the same thing. Not sure what Breeze did to you to wish on their demise but it’s pretty obvious you guys are mad.
#4893
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We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
The reason many from other airlines dislike Breeze is that their stated intention from the start was to redefine airline wages. Had they succeeded in doing that it would have had a very negative impact on all airline employees. Obviously their concepts on how to gut their employee costs somewhat failed however they still enjoy a tremendous wage advantage over most other airlines. I note the hourly wage for Breeze is often posted but that is only half the story. Work rules and soft pay are critical to a pilots long term career/earnings and Breeze has virtually zero in both categories.
#4894
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you have seen the numbers. From the large “other” expense, you can see Breeze is most likely paying off investors. Keeping them happy in hopes things turn around. If that’s not the case, what else could “other” be?
#4895
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That makes zero sense from any business or legal standpoint. It's not how a corporation manages money or accounting. In addition Breeze went out for additional funding in a much higher interest rate environment. You don't pay off low interest loans with high interest loans.
#4896
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That makes zero sense from any business or legal standpoint. It's not how a corporation manages money or accounting. In addition Breeze went out for additional funding in a much higher interest rate environment. You don't pay off low interest loans with high interest loans.
they are not paying off loans. They are paying premiums that don’t dilute their shares. Important when they sell everything off.
rich people make their money out the back door.
the suckers wait out front hoping to be the next jet blue.
#4897
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You still don’t believe that Breeze made money. Even though it was made public to a bunch of news outlets. You want us to post the numbers for the last few months LOL
#4898
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The famous “other” expense. You’re really on to something there!
#4899
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Breeze has made major changes to the business plan since the concept started. Something is clearly not working or the changes would not have occurred. Have they found a business plan that is currently working is the important question. In the extremily positive airline yield market we currently have they should have excellent numbers. Clearly they have not met any past financial projections.
The reason many from other airlines dislike Breeze is that their stated intention from the start was to redefine airline wages. Had they succeeded in doing that it would have had a very negative impact on all airline employees. Obviously their concepts on how to gut their employee costs somewhat failed however they still enjoy a tremendous wage advantage over most other airlines. I note the hourly wage for Breeze is often posted but that is only half the story. Work rules and soft pay are critical to a pilots long term career/earnings and Breeze has virtually zero in both categories.
The reason many from other airlines dislike Breeze is that their stated intention from the start was to redefine airline wages. Had they succeeded in doing that it would have had a very negative impact on all airline employees. Obviously their concepts on how to gut their employee costs somewhat failed however they still enjoy a tremendous wage advantage over most other airlines. I note the hourly wage for Breeze is often posted but that is only half the story. Work rules and soft pay are critical to a pilots long term career/earnings and Breeze has virtually zero in both categories.
#4900
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You sound pretty delusional and are obviously clueless about how Breeze operates even though you seem so very interested in it. You don’t see that Breeze is succeeding? Not to mention probably during the worst time in history to start an airline. As far pay, that’s right, the pay hasn’t been as low as you thought huh? If it wasn’t for the latest around of legacy contract negotiations, the pay would be pretty standard. We are working on trying to get work rules. Instead of wishing us well, for whatever reason you’re stuck.
You have posted that Breeze was going to be profitable next quarter since almost the day operations began. Eventually you might be right. So far however you are batting zero.
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