PIC Question
09-18-2012 | 05:42 AM
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PIC Question
I was wondering if there are any chances for SIC to log time as PIC during a flight.
Is the captain PIC of the aircraft for the entire trip or are there any normal circumstances during flight that the SIC would be able to log PIC time?
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Is the captain PIC of the aircraft for the entire trip or are there any normal circumstances during flight that the SIC would be able to log PIC time?
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09-18-2012 | 06:09 AM
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Logging PIC is not as important as BEING PIC. Employers want PIC time because it shows that the applicant has not only been part of the decision making process, but the ultimate one responsible for those actions.
In my opinion, if you have to ask the question of if you should log it, you shouldn't, because you aren't building the PIC experience that the logbook is reflecting.
Again, just my opinion.
In my opinion, if you have to ask the question of if you should log it, you shouldn't, because you aren't building the PIC experience that the logbook is reflecting.
Again, just my opinion.
09-18-2012 | 06:16 AM
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Logging PIC can be useful towards acquiring the aeronautical experience requirements of the ATP cert. There are circumstances where you can log PIC as sole manipulator while flying as SIC (FAR 61.51).
For employment purposes, they are generally looking for time where you actually were the PIC (signed for the airplane). This is particularly true for turbine jobs where TPIC is a requirement.
For employment purposes, they are generally looking for time where you actually were the PIC (signed for the airplane). This is particularly true for turbine jobs where TPIC is a requirement.
09-18-2012 | 09:47 AM
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Logging PIC is not as important as BEING PIC. Employers want PIC time because it shows that the applicant has not only been part of the decision making process, but the ultimate one responsible for those actions.
In my opinion, if you have to ask the question of if you should log it, you shouldn't, because you aren't building the PIC experience that the logbook is reflecting.
Again, just my opinion.
In my opinion, if you have to ask the question of if you should log it, you shouldn't, because you aren't building the PIC experience that the logbook is reflecting.
Again, just my opinion.
09-18-2012 | 09:51 AM
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to help you with my vague question, the operation is scheduled commercial passenger airline part 121 and aircraft would be ERJ 145
Whats your take on that?
09-18-2012 | 09:55 AM
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No. Not in Part 121 Operations. The company flight release lists a PIC and the SIC is NOT IT.
Now in reality...YOUR log book is YOUR log book... you can log anything you so desire, but you better be able to explain how you logged PIC time in ERJ145 while your only job with the company was as an FO.... just and example.
Now in reality...YOUR log book is YOUR log book... you can log anything you so desire, but you better be able to explain how you logged PIC time in ERJ145 while your only job with the company was as an FO.... just and example.
09-18-2012 | 12:18 PM
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09-18-2012 | 02:26 PM
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Do Some Homework
Gcpilot....check the pages of good advice and legal opinions that are already posted on this subject. For one, I'm too tired of the same question to wade in again.
Pass me a Guiness please Mate.
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09-20-2012 | 05:20 AM
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No. Not in Part 121 Operations. The company flight release lists a PIC and the SIC is NOT IT.
Now in reality...YOUR log book is YOUR log book... you can log anything you so desire, but you better be able to explain how you logged PIC time in ERJ145 while your only job with the company was as an FO.... just and example.
Now in reality...YOUR log book is YOUR log book... you can log anything you so desire, but you better be able to explain how you logged PIC time in ERJ145 while your only job with the company was as an FO.... just and example.
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