That an old friend of Connie's, since before he was a Kalitta pilot is behind this sham is awesome... (ironic really)

• The pay rate was too high! how will Connie afford this?

• We don't want rigs!

• We don't want duty day limits!

• Ford and Harrison invented boogeyman DW, he is one unapproachable BA!

GIVE US ALPA, they will fix it!

We have to fix this assinine mentality fellow pilots, they are eating us alive at a time our profession has not seen in decades, yet there is a large amount of our pilots who want to give Connie a big hug for his greatness... and give him the union he has asked for...high-five!!

As we like to say, .. "the top of the bottom"... what an epitaph

 

Which 1224 goon are you?

 

I personally look forward to interacting with Connie. He has done so much with so little and has my highest respect. I still want paid, I still want the benefits. What does one have to do with the other. This is a business.

Perhaps this scorched earth method is why the negotiations team at Atlas is having such great difficulty? I don’t know for sure but it kind of looks like it.

 

This is how ALPA spends your dues.

ALPA's dues are 1.95% of the member's airline income. That's the easy part. More complex is the manner in which the dues income is allocated to provide funding for all of the union's activities. This structure has been carefully honed over time and has served ALPA members well. All of the allocations are pieces of the gross amount generated by the 1.95% of each member's airline income. (As a reminder, the MEC is the Master Executive Council, the highest governing body at the airline level, and is made up of the elected status representatives from each domicile, plus the MEC chairman, vice chairman and secretary-treasurer.)


The first 0.35% of the 1.95% is allocated to the Special MEC Reserve Account (SMRA). SMRA funds are allocated directly to each MEC, which uses SMRA only after the MEC operating income (discussed below) is exhausted. The MEC has the option to budget and spend SMRA funds or save them for future use. The MEC may retain unspent SMRA funds for future years to support contract negotiations or special MEC needs, or the MEC can approve refunding the money to members annually.


The next component of dues - 0.10% of the 1.95% - is allocated to the ALPA Administrative and Support Account (A&S), discussed below.
After deducting the two components of dues allocation mentioned above, 1.50% of the 1.95% remains; it is called "operating income." This 1.50% is allocated to the MECs, the A&S account, and the Operating Contingency Fund (OCF). The MEC account allocation is 24% of the 1.50%, the A&S account allocation is 71.5% of the 1.50%, and the OCF account allocation is 4.5% of the 1.50%. The MEC account allocation (24% of the 1.50%) is distributed to each MEC, except that ALPA's largest groups are allocated 20% of the 1.50%.


The remaining 4.0% (24%-20%) of operating income of the largest pilot groups is redistributed to smaller MECs throughout ALPA. In essence, ALPA's larger pilot groups provide a subsidy to ALPA's smaller pilot groups to ensure adequate funding for their union activities.


The A&S account allocation (71.5% of the 1.50%, plus 0.10% of the 1.95% discussed above) provides serviced that are available to all ALPA pilot groups, including Representation, Economic & Financial Analysis, Legal, Retirement and Insurance, Communications, Engineering and Air Safety, Membership and Council Services.


In addition, the A&S account supports Administrative Services such as the National Officers, General Manager, Legislative Affairs, Governing Bodies, Finance, Information Systems, and Human Resources. When an MEC uses the services of the A&S departments described above, that MEC is not charged for the services provided by those departments. This is the ALPA "toolbox" of services that includes professional, technical, administrative, and clerical personnel. The central pooling and allocation of these resources has enabled ALPA to ensure the availability of highly qualified and experienced personnel to all member pilot groups on a cost-effective basis.


The OCF account allocation (4.5% of the 1.50% of operating income) primarily provides funds to smaller pilot group MECs during times of financial need, usually as a result of contract negotiations. Grants from ALPA's Major Contingency Fund (currently valued at $81 million) are also available for these purposes. A large portion of the OCF is allocated in advance to the smaller pilot groups' MECs during the budget preparation process based on anticipated negotiating schedules and other special needs. A portion of the OCF is also set aside for contingencies and other special needs of the union.

 

We are all 1224 members, apparently thats the part you don't understand...I guess you are a goon.

Can't wait until you are on the decertify ALPA bandwagon, and you can toot your anonymous horn once again.

 

I think most of the folks who started the decertify teamsters push are within spitting distance of retirement. So it doesn't matter if the next round of negotiations are a bigger **** show than the last.

 

Of course they don’t care about the future, it’s all about them. Oh wait! On second thought, this doesn’t benifit them at all, does it?

Young man, not everybody shares your selfish streak. Some people just want to right the wrong and are willing to spend their own money, and lots of their personal time so that you can have a brighter and more secure future. Oh, you didn’t know that DP is paying for all the expenses out of his own pocket?

Now before you come back with some immature answer like, I didn’t ask him to, know that a lot of other pilots did ask him to when he first floated the idea.

 

you go after one of my best friends and our pilot group with a load of sh*t
I hit back
way it works

 

Why havent I heard of any other pilot group wanting to decertify their current union to come to the Teamsters? Has this happened before?

 

The interesting thing about this to me is that 1.95% number. At Atlas that's about what we're paying WITH a strike assessment. So for the same thing we get our Strike Assessment when we decide we need it and we spend the Strike Assessment as we deem fit.

You're going to give all of it to ALPA and they will then decide when you are allowed to spend your money. When they decide that they don't want to spend any more of your money on negotiations they'll just pull the plug if that's what they want to do. Best of luck with that as ALPA rams down a terrible contract down your throats to make sure Delta gets theirs.... This is exactly what happened here when we were under ALPA as I've heard it described.

Or you can have an extra 1% for a Strike Assessment and go 3% so ALPA can still get their cut and you can make your own decisions.