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Old 04-13-2007 | 07:36 PM
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shuttle flights and lunar orbits would probably count as international ops and crossings.

When UPS decides that they need to drop laser guided packages while doing aerobatics, they'll probably hire some of these single seat fighter guys. For now though, we fly heavy aircraft across the world and are looking for pilots with experience doing just that.
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Old 04-13-2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
shuttle flights and lunar orbits would probably count as international ops and crossings.
But not X-Country time, since it is only a trip around the patch with a take-off and landing at the same place in FL ...

I'm just glad I had the right experience at the right time for a change ...

See you on-line !

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Old 04-13-2007 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
But not X-Country time, since it is only a trip around the patch with a take-off and landing at the same place in FL ...

I'm just glad I had the right experience at the right time for a change ...

See you on-line !

Later, CC
reminds me of one of our fo's that had a couple thousand hours but very little cross country time. Flew jumpers!
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Old 04-13-2007 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
shuttle flights and lunar orbits would probably count as international ops and crossings.
Originally Posted by CactusCrew
But not X-Country time, since it is only a trip around the patch with a take-off and landing at the same place in FL ...

So now we know the real reason they sometimes land the shuttle in California!
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Old 04-13-2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Q
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I agree with you.
BTW Lil'J attack on some other thread for some other fighter / heavy argument.

My best friend is a tanker guy, and I know how hard it is. I fly for an airline now, and it's not hard at all.

I have had to fly the tanker from my single seat fighter for them not to hit me.

His response always is.... "I've drag you guys many times accross the pond, that's not international/transoceanic experience".

I just wonder what his/her choice was when he needed to pick his airplane during assignment night at UPT. I was a betting man, I will say not too many.

By the way, I already gave some time to UPS back when, I think I have paid my dues as a former employee, and it has been 13 years to able to qualify, but the come up with these stupid requirements. In my opinion it su..ks! It shows how they treat their people.

And L'il J... How many weapons have you deliver from your tanker?


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None. How many times have you done a CPDLC position report, used ADS or logged a 13.1 hour sortie?

It sucks for you fighter guys right now in regards to UPS. It's not fair. But it also sucks for the regional guys and pretty much everyone except heavy mil and the ACMI operators. I agree that airline flying is about as easy as it gets.

What I think a lot of folks may be forgetting is that UPS is hiring those without the heavy, transoceanic experience. They just won't be going to the 747-400/MD-11.

And for the record I wanted bombers or the C-17, but they didn't have any at RODN so I chose tankers as my first choice. I even applied later on for the B-2 but was told "no thanks" because I lacked tactical experience. But I loved the tanker though. UPS knows that the current tanker drivers are CPDLCing themselves all around the world right now and they like it!
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Old 04-13-2007 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
None. How many times have you done a CPDLC position report, used ADS or logged a 13.1 hour sortie?

It sucks for you fighter guys right now in regards to UPS. It's not fair. But it also sucks for the regional guys and pretty much everyone except heavy mil and the ACMI operators. I agree that airline flying is about as easy as it gets.

What I think a lot of folks may be forgetting is that UPS is hiring those without the heavy, transoceanic experience. They just won't be going to the 747-400/MD-11.

And for the record I wanted bombers or the C-17, but they didn't have any at RODN so I chose tankers as my first choice. I even applied later on for the B-2 but was told "no thanks" because I lacked tactical experience. But I loved the tanker though. UPS knows that the current tanker drivers are CPDLCing themselves all around the world right now and they like it!
I don't even know what CPDLCing is! But, I'll put my 8.5 in a fighter up against a 13.1 where you can get up and walk around or lay down any day! Either way, it was good enough for Brown to call me! I've got a lot of good friends that fly tankers or other heavies and I'm happy for them. But none of the sh!t bags(bottom 3-4) from UPT tracked -38's and probably would have washed out back in the day, still made the cut... so I'm pretty confident I can handle the change to int'l ops.
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Old 04-14-2007 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Slice
I don't even know what CPDLCing is! But, I'll put my 8.5 in a fighter up against a 13.1 where you can get up and walk around or lay down any day! Either way, it was good enough for Brown to call me! I've got a lot of good friends that fly tankers or other heavies and I'm happy for them. But none of the sh!t bags(bottom 3-4) from UPT tracked -38's and probably would have washed out back in the day, still made the cut... so I'm pretty confident I can handle the change to int'l ops.

I never did any laying down. With just 2 total pilots on board I was not willing to trust my 400 hour copilot. You win though as an 8.5 in an F-16 has to be tough.

I am surprised you think that the bottom 3-4 guys from UPT were human feces. You've pretty much insulted the entire E-3 and RC-135 communities.

I'm sure you'll handle international ops as well. It is not that hard or that different.

CPDLC--Controller/Pilot Dat Link Communication It's basically text messaging to ATC position reports and FL requests. The new Blk 40 tankers have been doing it since 2004.
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Old 04-14-2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
I hate to say it but I think there is no way today (unless you are the CEO's son maybe) they will waive the 1000 PIC turbine requirement. Do you have any?
I'm definitely not the CEO's son And yes, I do have some in the Canadair Regional Jet, but nowhere near 1000. I was hired at my current job not long after I upgraded at my last job. Sounds like I'm not qualified... at least for this gig.

In fact, ironically, after 6 years and several thousand hours flying the MD-11 to all 6 continents, I'm not even qualified for the job I have now. Go figure...

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Old 04-14-2007 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
You win though as an 8.5 in an F-16 has to be tough.
maybe I should win,,I did 12.5 in a cessna 210 with ferry tanks from Greece to Djibouti....no autopilot

ok lets hear all the others who will top it....just for fun of course...
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Old 04-14-2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
maybe I should win,,I did 12.5 in a cessna 210 with ferry tanks from Greece to Djibouti....no autopilot

ok lets hear all the others who will top it....just for fun of course...
I'll gladly pass the torch to you for that one!
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