I am at 5Y and we are IBT. We have many, many committees including Pro Standards that are manned by volunteers who are often getting calls in the middle of the night. What exactly makes you think you will have these people when you are represented by ALPA? What I still don't understand is how no one else has stepped up in this airline to become a steward or run a committee. Did you guys just let two unelected guys run the show for a dozen years? How is this going to change with ALPA?

Additionally, we are hearing rumors that Amazon doesn't want to deal with IBT, and your management wants Amazon contracts. Our struggle with our management has embarrassed the suits at Amazon, but such is necessary in our constant battle to raise all boats. It is insulting to all of us at 5Y to think that another pilot group (under IBT) would undermine us. But we will continue the struggle with or without help from other pilot groups.

 

Is that what Bourne told you, because if it is I can share his lame effort at back peddling when I asking him to clarify what exactly why is Amerijet “not the kind of pilots or group” that ALPA like to deal with... especially when I came from a small ACMI that ALPA took with open arms and shared their resources with open arms. That small ACMI is now a large ACMI, which does the bulk of the Amazon flying, and has a great contract partly because of ALPA. Why would anybody not want that instead of an airline division manager that seems to think we are some sort of lesser pilot group that only deserves the IBT because we can’t get anybody else? Sorry, we’re not your codependent girlfriend Dave and the parallels you try to draw between us and Atlas/Polar are irrelevant... and you know it.

Our journey as a pilot group is to finally defeat the old image of a “scumbag 36th street” carrier and have professional representation that the IBT just cannot provide.. not to undercut anybody. If your airline is having issues with their customers then maybe the pilot group, and the company, should look at themselves in the mirror and see if they can identify the problem before it’s too late.

Judging by the people that post in the AJT ALPA online group, and the very poor attendance to the IBT’s last two meetings seems to indicate it is all over but the crying for the IBT here at Amerijet. We’ll know next Monday, and I wish Godspeed to the new leaders of the pilot group who are planning to hit the ground running for a strong future for our pilots.

 

Hey Cap that’s great. When you help your chapter of IBT deliver a quality contract come talk to us. We don’t much care. Our days of Teamsters are hopefully over soon. And I for one cannot wait. The IBT has had more than adequate time to do the right thing. Only they chose not to. You worry about you, we will focus on us. I have friends at 5Y too and based on what they say if they could they kick IBT to the curb for something better too. We’re doing what’s best for our group. Sorry if it doesn’t fit your agenda.

 

You don’t think ALPA carriers have volunteer committees that offer their services to peers around the clock? Of course they do.

 

Something ain't right with you guys. Of course ALPA has these committees. Why hasn't anyone stepped up in the last dozen years to do anything under your two IBT contracts? I suspect you all are waiting for ALPA to make everything better. I honestly dont understand why the number two man at IBT in D.C. wastes his time with this group.

 

That’s the exact same sentiment that drove us to collect cards in the first place. When you try to organize a committee and the IBT business agent keeps blowing you off, or plain outright says “I have a bunch of other councils I run, and I don’t have time” and people tend to lose interest. That coupled with no visible road to become a union steward, or recall the ones we have, has brought us to this point. Yes the IBT picked up the ball and ran with it during the dark ages, but they got really comfortable being the party of opposition and had no clue what to do moving forward once that opposition(Basset) was removed. This is a completely different airline then when you left Cap, and you or the IBT leaders can’t seem to see that. On the seniority list I’m in the high 30’s, and happen to be about the last pilot to really have gotten a glimpse at the Basset era. We have almost 120 pilots now, and a vast majority of them have no idea about Basset... nor do they really care. They see the growth here, they see the problems we currently have and the wall management is trying to build between the old and new pilots, and they know the IBT is not equipped to handle those issues or represent us in a way that professional pilots deserve.

All I can say is keep underestimating our pilot group, and think we are some sort of lesser group because you believe that because we come from airline with a tarnished name from the past. They say the punch that gets you is the one you didn’t see, so just keep looking the other way... the IBT did just that, and their sucker punch will be delivered next Monday.

 

I worked for the non-union version fifteen years ago, but I have met some of your reps. Knock yourselves out. I find it very difficult to believe no one pitched in to start a P2P or Pro Standards. No elected EXCO, no stewards, no Training committee? Nothing? Over two contracts? "Professional pilots"? Good luck guys.

 

Hi Guys I would LIke to Know, if there is any Interview Gouge for AJT?

Thanks in advanced

 

It is a straightforward interview. Very casual and friendly. HR is definitely the standard stuff, maybe 4-8 questions. Tech is about the same, or shorter. An ETOPS scenario will be a part of. If you are creative and thorough, you can cover most of the tech with just the ETOPS question.

 

Zoom interview in late July 2020. A possible Aug 10 class was mentioned and maybe in a pool for a few months if not offered Aug 10 class. I haven't heard a peep since. Suggestions?