Looks like mainly Hawaii runs for now, but that's slated to go away soon. SBD is the main ATI/Amazon hub in SoCal.

 

Thank you. Will most of ATI presence go away altogether from SBD, W.coast?

 

The fact that they can't get enough pilots is what will drive the change for a better CBA. Calling them out for it here publicly just pushes the eventual deal they'll have to make to come sooner. The K4 contract was short term and wouldn't fix their problem by the time it became amendable, neither was ATI's in 2018. Both however were good deals rather than sit for 4-6 years fighting to be where both are now, but under the old rates. Justas the regional managements came to the unions outside of traditional amendment periods to fix the contracts, the ACMI's will too. In the meantime, the time value of money rule of thumb is to take what you can, when you can, rather than sit and say no, not good enough for 4-6 years. If it isn't going to fix their problem, then they'll be back, and you're stupid to not take it.

The ACMI are banking on a recession coming soon to solve their contract problems by having pilots happy to be employed while scheduled pax carriers are furloughing again. If they're right, then taking what you can now is better than getting nothing once the recession hits. If they are wrong, then the pilot shortage will drive them to fix the CBA's just like the regionals did.

Either way, in this market. We win. Good to hear from ya, enjoy the retirement !!

 

Tell us you're a YPK entitled millennial without telling us you're a YPK entitled millennial.

 

And to illustrate your point Cujo. This found in Forbes Magazine Online (I’ll forgive some of the inaccuracies):

“Amazon Partner Can’t Keep Pilots Due To Low Pay And Stalled Talks”

https://apple.news/AsCA_5ne9Rt-fmv9uwEUd8g

 

Bingo. However, ATSG is betting on a recession and so long as the completion factor doesn’t jeopardize the AMZ contract they’re fine with the status quo maximizing profits as long as possible. So, if a short term deal comes down the road, grabbing it, even if you know it won’t solve their problem is the smart move. If the recession does hit, you got something, if it doesn’t hit it won’t solve the staffing and they’ll be back to fix it on their own. The smaller the improvements, the shorter the term you give them.

 

Tell me you're a widebody international pilot, without sounding like you've never set food on an airport.

You've got the second part down. Definitely interested in your expertise. In the short time you've been posting, I don't believe I've seen you post a single correct statement yet.

When ATI told you "no," ATI did ATI a huge favor.

 

https://aerocrewnews.com/aviation-ne...tain-upgrades/

While I don't know what is really true, it seems that the company is not worried: "CEO Rich Corrado stated that he “doesn’t expect the CBA to be settled prior to 2024.”

Maybe they know more than is public?

 

I personally find it funny that the news articles keep saying they are going to have a staffing crisis. Ummmm, I think we already do. No doubt the higher ups know things, but if they really had a grip on reality we wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place! It’s not good now. You know it’s not good when new hires with zero heavy experience are upgrading right away. If that sounds crazy, that’s because it is.

 

What they know is that they're not going to get it done before 2024, which seems to me like a de facto admission that they are not negotiating in good faith.

But what's really going on is the stupid RLA negotiations game where the company doesn't negotiate because they don't have to. Until the NMB starts making noise about an impasse, the company doesn't have to do jack squat. What the company is banking on is a hiring slowdown at the major airlines and we are seeing that. UPS and FedEx have publicly announced that they have stopped hiring for the year, if not longer. Delta has significantly reduced their planned hiring to 30 a week, down from some ridiculous number like 100 a week. The high-paying regionals with guaranteed no-interview flows are getting everybody they want and are slowing their attrition. We (ABX) are seeing an uptick in hiring numbers and the experience levels of many of those applicants. They're still not getting the numbers they want, but they are getting more. They were shooting for classes of 16 to 18 and getting 6. They're still shooting for 16 to 18, but they got 11 for the most recent class starting this week and for upcoming classes. The company's patience is being rewarded.