The difference between Collierville and Germantown?

Fake diamonds and real orgasms.

(Thanks Jackal)

 

Len,

Thanks for taking time to express your opinions, I appreciate it. The question I have beyond STV and the pay issues, is SCOPE. In the same standing ovation filled room, did we not get an "Industry Leading Scope Clause ?". I remember BC saying how surprised he was that the Company signed such an agreement. Now our same NC is selling this LOA as "it is better than we have in the CBA (which is wrong when you throw in the givebacks like STV) and more importantly protects Scope. How can the NC say this ? We paid many negotiating dollars to get our current Scope Clause and from what I read in the current CBA it already says the same thing the new LOA does.

I know you are not a Scope Lawyer, but this is BS that we need to pass a substandard LOA to protect something we thought we already had. I have asked MEC reps about this and hey had no answer for this question.

 

Go to www.alpa.org, sign in under members only, when you get to the next page select "webboards" under "quick links", select FDX MEC, select "I accept the terms and conditions" and you're in. Hope this helps.

 

How many Airbus guys does it take to screw in a light bulb? Zero, they don't have an engineer to do it for them . . .

 

What's a lightbulb?

 

Len
This forum is a public forum for sharing information. I know some guys blow smoke, and some guys ask questions. Some information that is passed out on this forum may be questionable, but that's what we have to filter out. We ask the company or we ask the union, but either way, we filter it out.

As an ACP, I respect your position. You have decisions to make that you also need to filter out. But I need to say that since you have been the AirBus ACP, you have already developed a reputation that you are on a witch hunt to get guys fired, and the word out in the crew force is to "be careful." You use to be on the union grievience committee, and you are already calling guys in for formal hearings to review their job status because of minor infractions. Is this your decision or is this what you are told to do? Either way, take a leadership position and do what is right in you heart to your fellow pilots. If they are cheating on the company, then do what you have to do and call them in, but formal hearings for minor accidental infractions? Be the leader you were taught in the military role and make sound decisions based upon the offense. It works, even with management. I know of one ACP that stepped down because he didn't agree with what the company expected him to do. In his heart he felt it was the WRONG decision and I respect him as a person for making that decision.

Right now, after the August pairings came out, there are very few pilots that trust the company and the managers that support it. Quality of life for everyone on the Bus has gone to an all time low because of the optimizer usage. Not only are the pilots upset, but the ALPA SIG and PSIT teams are also frustrated. We have fewer commuter lines, MUCH longer duty days, shorter layovers, going from nights to days then back to days to nights and then back again, loss of trip purity, fewer deadheads or, better yet, deadheads in the middle of pairings. If you want to do something right, get those fixed first, then worry about uniforms and haircuts.

You have a lot of good guys that are busting their butts to support the company and they do a pretty darn good job that is expected of them. But when we have the next accident due to fatigue, I hope that, if you are on the decision review board, you make the moral choice. ACPs come and go, but they always return to the line...sometimes with the respect of their fellow crewmembers.

 

Len,

It takes guts to come on an anonymous (did I spell that right?) message board and post. Whether or not I agree with you, I appreciate the effort and wish more would follow your lead.

This may or may or may not be the best forum to get the word out, but some of us like the effort.

 

Is this for real? I'm new to the bus and haven't heard this particular piece of info. Is there something I should know?

 

"You use to be on the union grievience committee, and you are already calling guys in for formal hearings to review their job status because of minor infractions"

How does a guy go from being on the union grievience committe to being an ACP/management guy? I'm not sure I like that concept....

 

I believe our former/still behind the scenes VP of Flt Ops used to be some sort of union official or negotiator around here. Plus, ask Bill Compton how he got to be the CEO of TWA or ask Joe Chronic how went from TWA MEC chair to VP of Flt. Ops at America West next to a chief pilot who was subsequently pushed out of his position only to go be the union MC. There are more examples out there, but you get the picture.......