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Old 07-24-2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
Hi!

I wanted to follow up on my post.

My CEO said she likes out situtation now better than when I was home on unemployment/substitute teaching.

My kids miss me, and I miss them, but they are doing very well.

I would prefer to be home more, which is why I applied at basically EVERY job I saw, including Lynx, GoJet, Pinnacle, Colgan, corporate, charter, etc., etc. If they were hiring, I applied. This NBO-based job is the only one that hired me.

And, I was previously out of flying for 10 years, and my CEO likes my aviation career better than my previous 3+ careers.

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Sounds like you have a supportive spouse and that is hard to come by these days.
Old 07-24-2009 | 11:13 AM
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Hey UPSMistake... here’s an idea… just walk into the chief pilot's office and demand to be home based... in Louisville and no ANC. I'm sure he’ll be more than happy to make your wish come true… one less guy to furlough, if it comes down the road at a later day.

Now for the reality check. Quit your belly aching, take off the rose colored glasses and take a long look around you. I’ll wager that you have friends that are happy for you having a job and are not pounding the pavement looking for a job.

Why you left SWA is unimportant, but the fact that you are gainfully employed is. You should thank your lucky stars that you’re able to put food on the table, pay the mortgage, and save some money too.

Do you realize how many furloughed pilots had to bite the bullet and become an expat half way around the world so their families are not forced out onto the streets or move back home with mom and dad? If you know any expat, ask them how life is on the other side of the planet. Better yet, ask them how family life is. Ask them how the wife enjoys being a single mom by de-facto. Compared to living in China or India, Anchorage is a walk across the street.

So be happy don’t worry, and quit your damn whining and be grateful for what you have. After all, the street is a crappy place to be in these hard times. With any luck in the not too distant future, your commuting worries will be what roads to take to the airport to avoid traffic.
Old 07-24-2009 | 12:23 PM
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This cat hasn't replied to a post since the original day of his whine. He's obviously a mangler who took a break from revising the FOM for the umpteenth time and figured he'd float a turd in our punchbowl -- to great effect. Prolly the same guy who (under a different name) started the whole "managers are great, you should thank us" thread.
Old 07-24-2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck92
This cat hasn't replied to a post since the original day of his whine. He's obviously a mangler who took a break from revising the FOM for the umpteenth time and figured he'd float a turd in our punchbowl -- to great effect. Prolly the same guy who (under a different name) started the whole "managers are great, you should thank us" thread.
Either that, or he sobered up the next morning and forgot he even posted here!
Old 07-24-2009 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FIT59
Either that, or he sobered up the next morning and forgot he even posted here!
I'm thinking that they are going to find him hanging in a closet ala David Carradine
Old 07-24-2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
I'm thinking that they are going to find him hanging in a closet ala David Carradine

If you're going to go, it might as well be with a smile on your face.
Old 07-24-2009 | 03:50 PM
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Nope, I am still here, I wasn't drunk and I still stand by what I wrote earlier.

Working for UPS is a miserable experience. I would advise anybody against coming here. There is more to life than a high hourly rate, which is basically the only thing that UPS offers over other airlines.

Stability? HA, I have been advised that I could be furloughed for 3-5 years. Yeah, we mitigated the furlough until April, but most of us on the bottom can envision a final paycheck of three months pay on January 1st along with a letter saying that we will be furloughed. That is what I expect.

UPS retired three fleet types of three man airplanes since I was hired here. There is no stability at this job.

Bases? Anchorage is the only base in the near term for the junior guys. So much for watching my kids grow up on that commute to Anchorage after I get displaced in a few days!

Geez, I'm glad I bought a house in Louisville after the last displacement.

Managers always looking over your shoulders, and the best part is that not one of them was threatened with a furlough all while 300 of us, some senior to them, were threatened.

Oh, and what a wonderful solution to bring them over to the IPA with date of hire. Right!! Bring them over and watch UPS furlough the bottom 300 IPA pilots.

Bottom line for me and my family is that I made a huge mistake coming to UPS. If anyone is even considering coming here when we begin hiring again in 5 years, I would NOT recommend it. It is an absolutely miserable place to work, which is why our union is strong. But for me and my family, it is not worth it.

I guarantee that any of you working for the $$ at the expense of never seeing your family will regret it on your deathbed while you are examining your choices in life.
Old 07-24-2009 | 04:32 PM
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unhappy management plant afraid of the upcoming union effort
Old 07-24-2009 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
unhappy management plant afraid of the upcoming union effort


On the B&G today they were discussing UAL flight bags, bike storage in ANC, Ray Ban sunglasses, etc.

I am not a manager, but you can believe whatever you want.
Old 07-24-2009 | 05:27 PM
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why do you guys have such a hard time understanding his story?

Everything is perspective. For the guys on the outside, they would gladly trade places.

But as a new guy at UPS myself, I understand where he is coming from. I am not ready to quit, but I am glad to be away for a while (VLOA) so at least there is some stability in my life.

My advice would be to hang in there and look for the light at the end of the tunnel - even if it involves a furlough or more displacements.

This is still THE place to be, and will be that way even more so after the economy recovers and age 65 has run its course (2012.)

good luck!
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