UPS regret
#141
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Fatboy,
In this industry, the accepted norm is to take the first job offered. By your post, I'll assume that you had a bunch of simultaneous offers and that you choose wisely. Most of the rest of us took what came along. I know I did, and when I went to UPS it took me exactly 2 hours to determine that I'd made a mistake. I think it was the hour-long briefing from the guy in Loss Prevention, telling us what they'd do to us if we were caught stealing, that made me have immediate second thoughts. Not that I planned to steal anything, but it was just that I had always considered myself a professional, and as such, should have been treated that way. That first day, during the first break, I remember calling my previous employer and asking if I could come back to work. Of course the answer was "NO", and so I stuck it out for a year, being miserable and hating the place. Thankfully I received a job offer from FedEx, but that was about 3 months after I had left UPS. You see, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. It had nothing to do with the crew force, which I thought were just great, but everything to do with how the company treated us.
JJ
In this industry, the accepted norm is to take the first job offered. By your post, I'll assume that you had a bunch of simultaneous offers and that you choose wisely. Most of the rest of us took what came along. I know I did, and when I went to UPS it took me exactly 2 hours to determine that I'd made a mistake. I think it was the hour-long briefing from the guy in Loss Prevention, telling us what they'd do to us if we were caught stealing, that made me have immediate second thoughts. Not that I planned to steal anything, but it was just that I had always considered myself a professional, and as such, should have been treated that way. That first day, during the first break, I remember calling my previous employer and asking if I could come back to work. Of course the answer was "NO", and so I stuck it out for a year, being miserable and hating the place. Thankfully I received a job offer from FedEx, but that was about 3 months after I had left UPS. You see, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. It had nothing to do with the crew force, which I thought were just great, but everything to do with how the company treated us.
JJ
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#142
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No sweat. It was the best move I ever made. My personality was, at the time, not quite right, for the UPS "experience." It took me about 6 additional years to make it to the left seat, but that was just fine with me. FedEx was a more correct fit for me than UPS would have ever been.
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#143
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No sweat. It was the best move I ever made. My personality was, at the time, not quite right, for the UPS "experience." It took me about 6 additional years to make it to the left seat, but that was just fine with me. FedEx was a more correct fit for me than UPS would have ever been.
JJ
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#144
I'm just glad that upsmistake got rid of the P3 in his avatar, as it was personally embarassing to me that an alleged P3 guy would whine as much as this pogue.
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#146
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For me it was the look on the HR guy's face when, on day one, someone asked what kind of employee discount we get for shipping something at UPS. He literally looked like the guy had just asked to have sex with his daughter. "Discount -- why would you get a discount?!" Now, I openly admit that 1. it's a good job and I'm not complaining, generally and 2. they certainly pay me enough to ship my own crap at full price. But it really is the principle -- even McDonald's gives pimple-faced high schoolers a buck off a happy meal during their break! 

For a long time FedEX gave UPS pilots a discount to ship, the same that they gave to the PAX carriers. They used to get a laugh when you presented your UPS airline ID.
The FedEx overnight letter in the cockpit window used to get them spooled up during contract negotiations.
#147
Stability? HA, I have been advised that I could be furloughed for 3-5 years. Yeah, we mitigated the furlough until April, but most of us on the bottom can envision a final paycheck of three months pay on January 1st along with a letter saying that we will be furloughed. That is what I expect.
OMG! I can't take this guy.....he is just too much! I can guaran-friggin-tee, this guy never worked at a commuter airline.
#148
Have you seen the RDG schedules? Not everybody is going to hold 8 days of reserve on RDG. In fact they are much worse than that and as a commuter I could/will be commuting to ANC just as much as I would have as a non-RDG bidder.
I think you example is best case scenario but you are still not even factoring in the commute which will add 2 days on each end of that reserve stretch likely.
I would love a part time job WHERE I LIVE so I could go and do something else, but the problem is I will be commuting to Alaska for that part time job.
You probably don't understand since you live there and don't have to commute. And no I cannot move there now since we just bought a house here in SDF.
I think you example is best case scenario but you are still not even factoring in the commute which will add 2 days on each end of that reserve stretch likely.
I would love a part time job WHERE I LIVE so I could go and do something else, but the problem is I will be commuting to Alaska for that part time job.
You probably don't understand since you live there and don't have to commute. And no I cannot move there now since we just bought a house here in SDF.
#149
Well, I would think if you knew anyone here, they would advise you NOT to buy a house. One of the first things I was told by my buddy that works here when I got hired is to get ready to be displaced a bunch of times as long as I'm at the bottom of the seniority list. It's not like displacements are new at UPS. I don't think you're an idiot for buying a house but you can always rent it out if you move to ANC for the short term.
#150
Paying for you kid's college is way overrated. My parents didn't pay squat for my college, and look where I ended up.
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