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Old 07-25-2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
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In this industry, the accepted norm is to take the first job offered. By your post, I'll assume that you had a bunch of simultaneous offers and that you choose wisely. Most of the rest of us took what came along. I know I did, and when I went to UPS it took me exactly 2 hours to determine that I'd made a mistake. I think it was the hour-long briefing from the guy in Loss Prevention, telling us what they'd do to us if we were caught stealing, that made me have immediate second thoughts. Not that I planned to steal anything, but it was just that I had always considered myself a professional, and as such, should have been treated that way. That first day, during the first break, I remember calling my previous employer and asking if I could come back to work. Of course the answer was "NO", and so I stuck it out for a year, being miserable and hating the place. Thankfully I received a job offer from FedEx, but that was about 3 months after I had left UPS. You see, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. It had nothing to do with the crew force, which I thought were just great, but everything to do with how the company treated us.

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The " have you stolen anything or did you lie on your application" drill the first day from loss prevention. The funniest thing is the guy who used to give that lecture from loss prevention was fired for stealing from the company. I am surprised we didn't have a party the day he was escorted off the property. A lot of the bottom rung high school graduates in management from the ground side are lucky to have a job that pays more than minimum wage.
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Old 07-25-2009 | 04:53 PM
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No sweat. It was the best move I ever made. My personality was, at the time, not quite right, for the UPS "experience." It took me about 6 additional years to make it to the left seat, but that was just fine with me. FedEx was a more correct fit for me than UPS would have ever been.

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Old 07-25-2009 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
No sweat. It was the best move I ever made. My personality was, at the time, not quite right, for the UPS "experience." It took me about 6 additional years to make it to the left seat, but that was just fine with me. FedEx was a more correct fit for me than UPS would have ever been.

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You and a lot of others. Something the company doesn't like to be reminded of to much is that between the start of the airline in 88 until we formed the IPA the company hired and train almost 1200 pilots, there where only 762+/- left to vote on the formation of the IPA. The rest had bailed for places they felt where better or anywhere but UPS.
Old 07-25-2009 | 05:51 PM
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Old 07-25-2009 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Fatboy,

... I think it was the hour-long briefing from the guy in Loss Prevention, telling us what they'd do to us if we were caught stealing, that made me have immediate second thoughts...
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For me it was the look on the HR guy's face when, on day one, someone asked what kind of employee discount we get for shipping something at UPS. He literally looked like the guy had just asked to have sex with his daughter. "Discount -- why would you get a discount?!" Now, I openly admit that 1. it's a good job and I'm not complaining, generally and 2. they certainly pay me enough to ship my own crap at full price. But it really is the principle -- even McDonald's gives pimple-faced high schoolers a buck off a happy meal during their break!
Old 07-25-2009 | 06:26 PM
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For me it was the look on the HR guy's face when, on day one, someone asked what kind of employee discount we get for shipping something at UPS. He literally looked like the guy had just asked to have sex with his daughter. "Discount -- why would you get a discount?!" Now, I openly admit that 1. it's a good job and I'm not complaining, generally and 2. they certainly pay me enough to ship my own crap at full price. But it really is the principle -- even McDonald's gives pimple-faced high schoolers a buck off a happy meal during their break!

For a long time FedEX gave UPS pilots a discount to ship, the same that they gave to the PAX carriers. They used to get a laugh when you presented your UPS airline ID. The FedEx overnight letter in the cockpit window used to get them spooled up during contract negotiations.
Old 07-25-2009 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSMISTAKE

Stability? HA, I have been advised that I could be furloughed for 3-5 years. Yeah, we mitigated the furlough until April, but most of us on the bottom can envision a final paycheck of three months pay on January 1st along with a letter saying that we will be furloughed. That is what I expect.
So let me get this straight.....you came here thinking you would have a guarantee that getting furloughed would never happen? That is your definition of stability? Earth to UPSMISTAKE....come on back down!

OMG! I can't take this guy.....he is just too much! I can guaran-friggin-tee, this guy never worked at a commuter airline.
Old 07-25-2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSMISTAKE
Have you seen the RDG schedules? Not everybody is going to hold 8 days of reserve on RDG. In fact they are much worse than that and as a commuter I could/will be commuting to ANC just as much as I would have as a non-RDG bidder.

I think you example is best case scenario but you are still not even factoring in the commute which will add 2 days on each end of that reserve stretch likely.

I would love a part time job WHERE I LIVE so I could go and do something else, but the problem is I will be commuting to Alaska for that part time job.

You probably don't understand since you live there and don't have to commute. And no I cannot move there now since we just bought a house here in SDF.
I would love a Corvette ZO6 but I can't afford it.....will someone feel sorry for me?
Old 07-25-2009 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSMISTAKE
So my accountant/financial planner, wife, parents, etc. all advise that buying a house is the best idea, but you insinuate that I am some kind of idiot for buying one. Yeah, what a crazy idea to buy a house in base!

I guess I don't have a crystal ball like you do.
Well, I would think if you knew anyone here, they would advise you NOT to buy a house. One of the first things I was told by my buddy that works here when I got hired is to get ready to be displaced a bunch of times as long as I'm at the bottom of the seniority list. It's not like displacements are new at UPS. I don't think you're an idiot for buying a house but you can always rent it out if you move to ANC for the short term.
Old 07-25-2009 | 09:08 PM
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I would love a Corvette ZO6 but I can't afford it.....will someone feel sorry for me?
Come on M, you can afford it...just cash in the kid's college fund. He looks pretty smart...he'll probably get a scholarship anyway.

Paying for you kid's college is way overrated. My parents didn't pay squat for my college, and look where I ended up.
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