UPS regret
#201
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I am going to take a long term leave and look for another job. I really don't have a choice at this point, but I will be glad to get out of this place. It is a cesspool of misery. I hate it.
For anyone who is hoping to get on with UPS someday, I can honestly say that I would NEVER recommend this company or job to any one. It is only going to get worse here for years and years. UPS will continue to decimate our contract, park jets, staff with scabs (managers) and contract out the flying.
If you were born and raised in Alaska and don't mind being an FO for 20 years, then maybe UPS wouldn't be too bad, but for anyone else, stay away from this place. You've been warned.
As for me and my family ---Oh well. Live and learn.
For anyone who is hoping to get on with UPS someday, I can honestly say that I would NEVER recommend this company or job to any one. It is only going to get worse here for years and years. UPS will continue to decimate our contract, park jets, staff with scabs (managers) and contract out the flying.
If you were born and raised in Alaska and don't mind being an FO for 20 years, then maybe UPS wouldn't be too bad, but for anyone else, stay away from this place. You've been warned.
As for me and my family ---Oh well. Live and learn.
#202
Gets Weekends Off
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WAAAAAAAA
Tens of thousands of pilots on the street with NO pay and very little hope of any aviation related income in the future and you are whining about life at UPS??
Get a grip!
Didn't they teach you in the military to deal with adversity? Move the family. Rent a place. Commute. Postpone the purchase of that new car/flatscreen/vacation timeshare.
Deal with it.
Sheeeesh. I guess it's true. Pilots can always find something to witch about. But, maybe it is better to do it somewhere else where there are not so many other pilots who are facing a much, much worse situation than you are.
I'd trade seats with you in a heartbeat, pal.
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Tens of thousands of pilots on the street with NO pay and very little hope of any aviation related income in the future and you are whining about life at UPS??
Get a grip!
Didn't they teach you in the military to deal with adversity? Move the family. Rent a place. Commute. Postpone the purchase of that new car/flatscreen/vacation timeshare.
Deal with it.
Sheeeesh. I guess it's true. Pilots can always find something to witch about. But, maybe it is better to do it somewhere else where there are not so many other pilots who are facing a much, much worse situation than you are.
I'd trade seats with you in a heartbeat, pal.
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#203
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There's more to life than money. And there certainly is more to life than being miserable.
I bet your kids don't mind that you drive a dump truck as long as you are there for their baseball games and school plays.
I'm amazed at what has become of our values here in this country. Especially the guys like the one on here that bragged that he hasn't seen his kids or family in months, yet he is LOVES his job.
To each his own, I guess. He will live to regret his decisions in life, but by then it will be too late. Interestingly enough, I think that part of the problem with this industry in general are the attitude like his.
Let management keep kicking you around and chipping away at the benefits, all while you are commuting away from your families - yet you still LOVE your job.
Not for me thanks. I won't regret one second spent with my family, but I bet you will regret your months away from yours. Too bad it will be too late for you though.
I bet your kids don't mind that you drive a dump truck as long as you are there for their baseball games and school plays.
I'm amazed at what has become of our values here in this country. Especially the guys like the one on here that bragged that he hasn't seen his kids or family in months, yet he is LOVES his job.
To each his own, I guess. He will live to regret his decisions in life, but by then it will be too late. Interestingly enough, I think that part of the problem with this industry in general are the attitude like his.
Let management keep kicking you around and chipping away at the benefits, all while you are commuting away from your families - yet you still LOVE your job.
Not for me thanks. I won't regret one second spent with my family, but I bet you will regret your months away from yours. Too bad it will be too late for you though.
#205
Does anybody else regret coming over here to UPS? I do.
So far my career with UPS has been one let down after another. From about a week after getting done with IOE this place has really gone downhill for me and I honestly regret leaving my old airline for this place. The biggest let down is that I could be working for Southwest living in base and not having to commute. And even if I did have to commute with them, at least me life wouldn't be filled with so many unknowns.
Now it seems that I am going to get displaced to Anchorage. My 2nd displacement already....
So far my career with UPS has been one let down after another. From about a week after getting done with IOE this place has really gone downhill for me and I honestly regret leaving my old airline for this place. The biggest let down is that I could be working for Southwest living in base and not having to commute. And even if I did have to commute with them, at least me life wouldn't be filled with so many unknowns.
Now it seems that I am going to get displaced to Anchorage. My 2nd displacement already....
I don't know too many that have been displaced to SDF recently, that's why I ask.
#206
Where's my Mai Tai?
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
I'm still wondering what utopia you were at previously.
#207
With The Resistance
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
There's more to life than money. And there certainly is more to life than being miserable.
I bet your kids don't mind that you drive a dump truck as long as you are there for their baseball games and school plays.
I'm amazed at what has become of our values here in this country. Especially the guys like the one on here that bragged that he hasn't seen his kids or family in months, yet he is LOVES his job.
To each his own, I guess. He will live to regret his decisions in life, but by then it will be too late. Interestingly enough, I think that part of the problem with this industry in general are the attitude like his.
Let management keep kicking you around and chipping away at the benefits, all while you are commuting away from your families - yet you still LOVE your job.
Not for me thanks. I won't regret one second spent with my family, but I bet you will regret your months away from yours. Too bad it will be too late for you though.
I bet your kids don't mind that you drive a dump truck as long as you are there for their baseball games and school plays.
I'm amazed at what has become of our values here in this country. Especially the guys like the one on here that bragged that he hasn't seen his kids or family in months, yet he is LOVES his job.
To each his own, I guess. He will live to regret his decisions in life, but by then it will be too late. Interestingly enough, I think that part of the problem with this industry in general are the attitude like his.
Let management keep kicking you around and chipping away at the benefits, all while you are commuting away from your families - yet you still LOVE your job.
Not for me thanks. I won't regret one second spent with my family, but I bet you will regret your months away from yours. Too bad it will be too late for you though.
#209
Mistake,
Here's what I don't get, and I've tried to take some time to think about this before posting, but what's the big deal about buying a house in SDF? If you're getting displaced, UPS is going to cover the costs of everything, all you have to do is sell it for what you bought it for under move package #1. If family time is important, pack them up, or, should I say, have UPS pack them, and move back to ANC and sit reserve at home.
With all sincerity I say best of luck in your search for a better lifestyle.
CM
As an aside, this is my 3rd airline, I'm in the bottom 500, and I have not one day thought about going back and being senior at either of my other 2 employers.
Here's what I don't get, and I've tried to take some time to think about this before posting, but what's the big deal about buying a house in SDF? If you're getting displaced, UPS is going to cover the costs of everything, all you have to do is sell it for what you bought it for under move package #1. If family time is important, pack them up, or, should I say, have UPS pack them, and move back to ANC and sit reserve at home.
With all sincerity I say best of luck in your search for a better lifestyle.
CM
As an aside, this is my 3rd airline, I'm in the bottom 500, and I have not one day thought about going back and being senior at either of my other 2 employers.
#210
I'll second that recommendation. I for one don't want this guy on my crew...he's so distraught and downbeat that it would surely impact his performance to the detriment of more than his weak nature and apparently waning will to live. So many more have dealt with so much more adversity with so much more fortitude...dozens I know personally.
While he's apparently a genuine line guy, he reminds me of Skyhigh, who had anti-Tony Robbins-like seminars on the other groups for months. Thing is, personalities like this will likely sink into a similar funk no matter where he goes, so I pity whoever is saddled with him next.
Perhaps somebody should dissect this type and integrate it into the screening process. He wasted a spot that somebody else could have taken.
Good riddance.
While he's apparently a genuine line guy, he reminds me of Skyhigh, who had anti-Tony Robbins-like seminars on the other groups for months. Thing is, personalities like this will likely sink into a similar funk no matter where he goes, so I pity whoever is saddled with him next.
Perhaps somebody should dissect this type and integrate it into the screening process. He wasted a spot that somebody else could have taken.
Good riddance.
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