"I've got a couple meetings set up this week that will hopefully allow me to get away from UPS for a while until this paycut and displacement BS blows over"

Nice.

"I am going to take a long term leave if I can get this other job that I interviewed for this week in Indiana."

Great

"You have to be willing to work hard and do manual labor, but I don't mind that one bit. You also have to be willing to work with leach fields and septic tanks, but it's better than UPS at half pay"

Wonderful. It's your call....

"Why do you take it so personal?"

Cause I'm on short term leave to keep you from getting furloughed....

Yeah, I'm not getting paid for a couple of months so the bottom 300 could keep their jobs. Ain't no thing. I'll do it next year, too. But, there is always that 5% who needs to pee in the Cheerios. No problemo. Just be sure to let us know when you leave the property. One less guy contributing to the 5%......

 

Yeah and I appreciate what you and all IPA pilots have done. I think you guys are great, its UPS and the direction that this career here at UPS is headed that I am taking about.

Sorry if you identify youself and your self worth with your UPS job so much apparently. I honestly cannot understand why anything I posted would bother you. You should be happy that us new guys would rather leave than put up with this crap here. But whatever man....

 

Dude...

You're killing me! Be careful what you indirectly wish for. With your defeatist, poor-poor-pitiful-me attitude, if you did get a job in the septic industry, after about a month you'd no doubt start sniveling so much a co-worker would knock you out with a shovel and dump you into a septic tank just to shut you up.

You could go to a cancer ward and within ten minutes people would be hanging themselves...

Amazing.

 

Holy crap!

You know it must be bad at UPS if the junior guys would rather wallow around in leach fields filled with other peoples' feces, instead of flying for Brown.

Also gives a whole new weird meaning to Working for Brown.

Things actually have gone dowhill here, but I didn't think it was that bad .....

 

It's not... I respect Mistakes' views but disagree with him... I too turned down a SWA class (had just finished my ioe here) but I still think I made the right choice... In 20 or so years I'll know for sure but in the meantime I try to look around me so I can compare and I focus on positive things in my life... I know Mistake is going to hate me for saying this but overall working here has been a very positive thing in my life...

I have two close friends who have totally different personalities... One is a breast cancer survivor who is a single mom making just barely enough to pay her bills... She still manages to donate 10% or more of her pay check to her church and other charities...

My other friend was born into wealth, didn't have a job until after college and has always lived a fairly afluent life...

I love them both but my dirt poor friend is the happiest human being one can ever wish to be around (and was that way even before she beat cancer) while my afluent friend makes you think he's the unluckiest person on earth... If he were to win million dollars today he'd convince you that last week a person had won two million dollars!!! even though he'd picked the same numbers - therefore he (my friend) got shafted!

Hard to believe and I still like him because he can't change his personality BUT it can be difficult to be around him sometimes...

I guess we are all different for a reason...

 

If you get this other job will you keep posting here as upsmistake or as indianajobmistake? Sorry, couldn't resist...


Things could be worst you know...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8186690.stm

The US pilots living next to a runway

By Rajesh Mirchandani
BBC News, Los Angeles


Living by the runway can be noisy, dirty and smelly
Airline jobs once inspired respect and envy.
But at Los Angeles International Airport about 100 airline employees - from mechanics to pilots - are living in mobile homes parked just yards from one of the busiest runways in the world.
It is a sign of the harsh reality of an industry that once embodied glamour.

Two weeks ago, I parked my car in Lot B at LAX when departing on holiday. For passengers like me, it offers a cheaper alternative to parking at the airport and free shuttle runs 24 hours a day to the terminals. On the short journey, the bus passed a large cluster of trailers and mobile homes.

Frugal life
This week, I went back and found that this makeshift trailer-park is home to about 100 airline industry workers, including at least three pilots.


We end up with a lot of engine noise... there's the dirt factor... and of course the ever-present smell of burning rubber as they land

David Schaeffer
Mechanic

By day they man the planes, by night they sleep under them.
Some have been here for years, and say the site has grown in recent times. In fact, Lot B has become a semi-permanent feature of an industry in flux.
I met mechanic Dana Hayes, who, each week, leaves his wife and home in Utah and lives a frugal life in a small neat trailer.
He can sleep, cook and wash with relative ease, but it is cramped, lonely and there is little to do.
"It's tough sometimes," he tells me. "It's better being home. I built a big home up in Utah... [But] it's better than paying rent... at least you can put a little money aside for retirement or something."

Faded glamour
Even at the pinnacle of the industry, some feel the squeeze.
Airline captain Bob Poster wonders if his title has lost its lustre.
"I was sitting with a friend of mine in his really nice RV [motor-home] over there last year and we were sitting there just talking and he says: 'Wow we're living the life! Two airline captains living in a parking lot!'"

Airline captain Bob Poster says there has been a decline in status and pay

Gone is the glamour of an airline career.
The fear of terrorist attacks, rising fuel costs and the deepest recession in 60 years have hit aviation hard. Airlines have shed thousands of jobs, and lost billions of pounds.
Those still employed face pay cuts and demotions. Many have to go where the work is. And that means living in places like Lot B.
At least it is cheap. It costs $60 (£35) a month to park, compared to at least 10 times that to rent a room in Los Angeles.
The commute to work is short and it is possible to get some sleep: aircraft land at a runway further away at night (pilot fatigue is a growing concern and has been implicated in recent crashes).
Lot B is far from ideal, but some say they do what they have to in uncertain times.
"We end up with a lot of engine noise... there's the dirt factor... and of course the ever-present smell of burning rubber as they land," says mechanic David Schaeffer.
"[But] it's a small price to pay. We have got ourselves a job in this environment, in this day and age that's not bad at all. I have no complaints."

 

What should it tell us? The company wants productivity for the money they pay us? DUH! Don't get me wrong, I'm the first one that wants to fly 5 hours a month for 75 hours of pay but the fact that the company doesn't isn't a shocker. No company wants to pay more for less work. I'd be more worried if they weren't looking for productivity gains.

 

I am completely serious when I say good for you! If I hated working somewhere, I would look for something else as well. I hope it works out for you.

 

I interviewed at SWA as well and did not get hired (so much for women getting all the jobs LMAO) and I was very upset at the time. Looking back, I am SO GLAD that I was not hired there. I would have been on 3rd year pay when UPS called and that (along probably living in base) would have been hard to give up for SDF and $26K a year. The thought of flying around a bunch of whiny red neck passengers makes me want to vomit. Yes, flying during the day would be ideal but I just love kicking back with a magazine while on a delay vs. making announcements every 5 minutes and hearing stupid commentary and all the "fun" stuff that comes with flying people these days. I've done enough of that. THANK YOU SWA for not hiring me.

 

Actually, what worried me the most was the whiney yankee white trash... Rednecks are predictable, they just want a beer... Yankees - they just want to... whine and to share with the world how superior they are to everyone else (hint - they aren't!) The rest of your post I agree with...