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Old 08-29-2009 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
I would call the IBT local and tell them where you picked them up and dropped them off and names if possible. They might be violating the FAR duty times being flown into a trip.
Anyone got an email or phone number for us in the field? I'm seriously doubting I personally will need it but maybe by posting this publicly we can use all our eyes and ears to help these guys.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 06:50 PM
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Anyone got an email or phone number for us in the field? I'm seriously doubting I personally will need it but maybe by posting this publicly we can use all our eyes and ears to help these guys.
There is a post on Page seven that has an e mail address.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
Non Union Pilots have successfully not crossed pickets before, they do have to work together.
you do have to make it clear that as agroup you won't participate.
Good luck getting pilots to do anything as a group. Amerijet is only 2 days into this strike, and already 20% of their pilots are scabbing.

So much for "brotherhood" and "groups." We are "brothers" only in our shared love for aviation, not in our committment to each other's well-being and professional success.

Besides, this whole notion of "calling a strike" may itself be outdated. It worked in the early days of the industrial age, when there was only one entrance to a coal mine or steel mill, and only one place, one method, and one employee group by which the end-product could be produced. But as we're seeing at Amerijet, that's no longer the case. While Amerijet pilots are walking a picket-line in some dark, remote corner of Miami, the company is still operating, and presumably making money, everywhere else.

If labor unions are going to succeed in the 21st Century, they're going to need to develop some new strategies for bringing pressure upon management.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 08:20 PM
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Way to go Dan. AJT has almost three scabbed crews, for now. Two or less in a couple of days. Your negativity is classic. We don't need you on the line, or in the business. Do nothing, and expect failure. Go away.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
Good luck getting pilots to do anything as a group. Amerijet is only 2 days into this strike, and already 20% of their pilots are scabbing.

So much for "brotherhood" and "groups." We are "brothers" only in our shared love for aviation, not in our committment to each other's well-being and professional success.

Besides, this whole notion of "calling a strike" may itself be outdated. It worked in the early days of the industrial age, when there was only one entrance to a coal mine or steel mill, and only one place, one method, and one employee group by which the end-product could be produced. But as we're seeing at Amerijet, that's no longer the case. While Amerijet pilots are walking a picket-line in some dark, remote corner of Miami, the company is still operating, and presumably making money, everywhere else.

If labor unions are going to succeed in the 21st Century, they're going to need to develop some new strategies for bringing pressure upon management.
If you knew anything about a strike, which it appears you don't, 20% is not an unexpected number to have cross. AJT is attempting to sub-contract strike breakers to move the freight, this is expensive and just about makes it certain that no profit is occurring. They will soon start to see the customers look for alternate methods to move the freight. As far as getting pilots to do anything as a group it looks like 80% of the pilots of AJT are working together.
My gut feeling is that you have a vested interest in seeing the AJT strike fail and are attempting to post statements to create doubt in the minds of strikers who may be reading this.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 10:44 PM
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So what can I, as a broke, lowly CFI with no travel benefits do to support the efforts of these pilots?
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Old 08-29-2009 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
If labor unions are going to succeed in the 21st Century, they're going to need to develop some new strategies for bringing pressure upon management.
They do. The new technology is called the mobile phone, and computer, and digital camera. Appropriate parties at other facilities can and will be notified at the speed of light... so they can take appropriate action to help that struck freight is not carried. And let us not forget some of those fine lads at the FAA who were at flying with Eastern Airlines (prior to the 4th of March, 1989) are now walking the beat on the MIA cargo ramp. They too have the modern technology to advise their colleagues down station to perform ramp checks to ensure that the AJT jets are in compliance too.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 11:12 PM
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Aren't these scabs mostly previous scabs; if so, I'm sure the pilots already knew who was going to cross, and already gave them a hell of a time.

(Devils advocate)
These previous scabs could do the right thing and stand by their brothers this time, they could donate 10 years of their time to 3rd world countries, or donate both kidneys to a fellow pilot (if they accept it), their name still won't be deleted from the list, so why not do it again?

It would be interesting to see if there are any new scabs added to the list, or if it is just repeaters. Pilots shouldn't feel depressed that our industry is going down even further with these 20%, I'm sure it was well known who was going to cross again. If we ever see more people cross the line than standing outside with a sign, then we will know that we failed ourselves in the biggest way. Hopefully we will always have each other, and that is the strongest union possible.
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Old 08-29-2009 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
Good luck getting pilots to do anything as a group. Amerijet is only 2 days into this strike, and already 20% of their pilots are scabbing.

So much for "brotherhood" and "groups." We are "brothers" only in our shared love for aviation, not in our committment to each other's well-being and professional success.

Besides, this whole notion of "calling a strike" may itself be outdated. It worked in the early days of the industrial age, when there was only one entrance to a coal mine or steel mill, and only one place, one method, and one employee group by which the end-product could be produced. But as we're seeing at Amerijet, that's no longer the case. While Amerijet pilots are walking a picket-line in some dark, remote corner of Miami, the company is still operating, and presumably making money, everywhere else.

If labor unions are going to succeed in the 21st Century, they're going to need to develop some new strategies for bringing pressure upon management.
you sound like you are making excuses for scabs.....would you be one when your company strikes?
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Old 08-29-2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot
Looks like they've been using a Lear to move crews around. As a furloughed airline guy flying charter would it be considered scabbing to move the crews?

As much fun as it would be to tell this guys to **** off, it would almost certainly be the end of my job (and knowing my sleazy boss, a lawsuit).

Any thoughts?
if I were flying and realized this:

"Dispatch, we have an engine running erratically, we are diverting to BFE. Arkansas to have it checked out."
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