Bitme

Well, then you don't grasp the lesson that history has taught us here, which is what history is all about. I'm not much of a history buff, but I was there when the plain language interpretation was written and I would like to believe that it was not written intentionally to throw a monkey wrench in the gears that was our contract for 5+ years. However, I'm not so naive to discount a possibility that some management guy dropped a hint to come up with a plain language interpretation after hearing Maxwell or Maliniak make a comment at some meeting that what the pilots really need is a coloring book to understand the contract. Remember you're not paranoid if they really are out to get you.

I for one am glad that the Union has evolved to a point that we have good people in there that do understand the historical significance, because for them it's been painful for over 5 years. If that doesn't suit your needs I'm sorry.

fecav8r

I've already done that. He says he doesn't care......

TonyC

Whew.


(Tell him I said thanks for the BZ. It was no biggy, I just wanted to get home. )





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fecav8r

he probably already knows that...

42GO

I'm glad you guys who have been here for all of 10-12 years are SO .......KNOWLEDGABLE...
YOUR infinate years of learning are SO VALUABLE.....we bow to your all knowing wisdom....

YEA.....right.....

TonyC

This is like ducks in a barrel -- it doesn't even seem fair.


knowledgeable

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Are we on the same team here? I mean, really. Do we not work for the same employer, and belong to the same union?

Then why can't we be civil, and exchange ideas like adults? I think we've both gotten a bit carried away, either out of frustration, or out of anger, or out of vain attempts at humor. But when the rubber meets the road, we should be able to focus on our common goals and methods of reaching the goals.


It is imperative that you read your contract. ALPA is NOT going to give you a Reader's Digest condensed version of it, and nobody is going to write a FedEx Contract for Dummies. You're just going to have to read it, and if you don't understand something, ask questions. We can talk about it here. You can talk to your Block Rep on the phone, or in person, or via e-mail. You can chat on private boards on the ALPA website or *************.com. There's lots of avenues of communication -- but you're not going to get what you're asking for, and it's a GOOD thing.


That's just all there is to it.


I don't know what happened to your Cheerios or Wheaties to get you so upset at ALPA in general, and the contract in specific, but you've got to get over it. Stop taking pot shots, and act like an adult about it.






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Bitme

Hey Tony, That's not funny. My last friend who this happened to became a sacrifice. Granted brought on by some of his own doing, but a sacrifice none the less.

And, if we can believe 42go's post about going to management then we know what kind of individual he is and it perfectly explains his posts here.

TonyC

I didn't mean it to be funny at all. I meant to show 42GO what he was accusing -- I thought he would have been familiar with the case. Sacrifice indeed, that few folks appreciate. Our Contract now prohibits Flight Management from requiring a psychological Evaluation -- managers can only require Physical Exams.


I appreciate the gravity of the charge, and the contributions of those gone before me. I hope 42GO does, as well.




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Airbusdriver

Why can't we all just get along?

Have I missed something? If you need an help with an item or items in the contract, just pick up the phone and call your rep or the union directly. Is there a need to start with all the name calling and verbal attacks? Plus, and this has been asked/stated before, is this the "correct" forum for this to be in?

130JDrvr

There must be a Santa somewhere out there! Wonder if he'll give me the week of Christmas off?

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