Comair execs in MSP, merger with Compass
08-28-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
Comair is one of the largest CRJ 200 Operators in the world, if not THE largest.
Plus, if you want to split hairs, most of ours are 100s, all retrofitted to 53K, some to B engines.
08-28-2008, 12:47 PM
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We're down to 100 and there are alreay more scheduled to be returned to the leasors. Let me see.... We also make Delta bank money with our MRO and ground handling services. There is also a deal in the works with Mesaba to do MRO work for them as well. Besides isn't Compass' HQ in VA?
08-28-2008, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
Comair is one of the largest CRJ 200 Operators in the world, if not THE largest. Everyone recognizes with capacity increasing it is unprofitable to operate low capacity 50 seater that are among the most inefficiency 50 seaters out there. Not only they dont have the most efficient engines but the fact that they dont have fadec increases their inefficiency by nearly 10%. Also comair has one of the oldest and highest paid pilot and flight attended groups, making their payroll a huge burden. In a competitive market with such small profit margins having such "top heavy" pilot group in a regional airline is devastating for the bottom line of any regional. Regional airlines in theory are not supposed to maintain and retain workforce longer then 4 years. In a healthy market, which we are not in, the regional workforce is supposed to flow up to the majors, keeping the operating cost of the regionals competitive. Comair doesn't have either one.
08-28-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
Besides isn't Compass' HQ in VA?
Originally Posted by BlueMoon
Your not very smart...are you?
08-28-2008, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryKite
flying is my part time job, i have several other projects that make me quite a bit more money than most pilots at your average regional/major airline! Cheers!
08-28-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryKite
flying is my part time job, i have several other projects that make me quite a bit more money than most pilots at your average regional/major airline! Cheers!
08-28-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
Your not very smart...are you?
I know you work for them and want to defend your company, but being realistic will most likely serve you best in the long run.
Comair used to be a FANTASTIC company, I know, I was there when it was. But now, new economic pressures, old fleet, and bad management has changed it its nature.
08-28-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Well, I hope you like being married. The way mainline jobs are disappearing because of planes like that, you're gonna be waking up next to that E170 for a long time.
08-28-2008, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
I guess Im not... But it doesn't take a genius to know that Delta has been trying to rid itself of Comair for a long time, even after that "sweet" contract that Comair pilots agree too at beginning of 2007. They cant sell that place off to save their life. No one want comair, their operating cost is simply too high. They are good at what they do, completion standard, timeliness, etc... but they are simply too old of a fleet with higher then average cost.
I know you work for them and want to defend your company, but being realistic will most likely serve you best in the long run.
Comair used to be a FANTASTIC company, I know, I was there when it was. But now, new economic pressures, old fleet, and bad management has changed it its nature.
I know you work for them and want to defend your company, but being realistic will most likely serve you best in the long run.
Comair used to be a FANTASTIC company, I know, I was there when it was. But now, new economic pressures, old fleet, and bad management has changed it its nature.
As for defending my company...that is funny. I don't care much about it.
Being factual may serve you best
08-28-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
Comair is one of the largest CRJ 200 Operators in the world, if not THE largest. Everyone recognizes with capacity increasing it is unprofitable to operate low capacity 50 seater that are among the most inefficiency 50 seaters out there. Not only they dont have the most efficient engines but the fact that they dont have fadec increases their inefficiency by nearly 10%. Also comair has one of the oldest and highest paid pilot and flight attended groups, making their payroll a huge burden. In a competitive market with such small profit margins having such "top heavy" pilot group in a regional airline is devastating for the bottom line of any regional. Regional airlines in theory are not supposed to maintain and retain workforce longer then 4 years. In a healthy market, which we are not in, the regional workforce is supposed to flow up to the majors, keeping the operating cost of the regionals competitive. Comair doesn't have either one.
Wow, where to start. Please tell me you are not an airline pilot... an analyst for Boyd Associates or something like that I would believe...
1 Capacity is being reduced everywhere, not increased
2 The RJ's have FADEC's - but improper flying costs more than no FADEC's
3 Comair's pilot group is NOT the most senior of the regionals.... just about EVERY regional likes to claim their labor costs are too high due to seniority.... it's an old war cry; and many are getting sick of hearing it.
Stop falling for this type of crap. If the Exec's can continuously take bonus after bonus after bonus, then there is nothing wrong with the cash flow... what having a more senior workforce means, is less bonus for them to steal.
4 Four years and then go to a major? That was a good system and used to work well....... about 15 years ago. Since then, majors have been shrinking, while more and more regionals moved to jets, and now, even biger jets. The old career path of doing your time at a regional then going to a major is all but gone. The regional managers want you to fall for this train of thought, so you will put up with lousy working conditions, low pay, and a lack of respect.... because.... after all, your just killing time before going to a major right?
Yep, your either a reporter, or a Boyd type analyst.... that stuff you typed is the kind of crap they would say.
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