Comair execs in MSP, merger with Compass
08-29-2008, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by macflyer
They do have to ratify each pilot contract. Furthermore they also have to deal with the stock holders of NWA and Delta respectively as both of those are publicly owned and compass and comair are wholly owned airlines by those two. They would have to announce PUBLICLY their intention of any possible merger and have the stockholders informed.
Also, the fact that comair will be the only one benefiting from the merger is another reason to believe that this merger is nothing more then a rumor. Compass stands to loose a lot from a merger with a company in as bad of a shape as comair. For a merger to conclude both airlines have to benefit from the union, hence, agree to it. Otherwise the other option would be an "hostile takeover" and in this case there can not be an "hostile takeover" as neither of the companies are publicly traded.
Also, the fact that comair will be the only one benefiting from the merger is another reason to believe that this merger is nothing more then a rumor. Compass stands to loose a lot from a merger with a company in as bad of a shape as comair. For a merger to conclude both airlines have to benefit from the union, hence, agree to it. Otherwise the other option would be an "hostile takeover" and in this case there can not be an "hostile takeover" as neither of the companies are publicly traded.
Pilots ratifying a contract has NOTHING to do with the approval of a merger. The merger will happen REGARDLESS of what the pilots do with the contract. And unless the majority of the stockholders are PILOTS, then we don't have a say in whether or not the merger will happen.
08-29-2008, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Pilots ratifying a contract has NOTHING to do with the approval of a merger. The merger will happen REGARDLESS of what the pilots do with the contract. And unless the majority of the stockholders are PILOTS, then we don't have a say in whether or not the merger will happen.
08-29-2008, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
Ok this Comair & Compass rumor is ridiculous. If you are going to start rumors, come up with something more believable. Just so you know, the execs for Compass dont have offices in Minneapolis. They are in Chantilly, Virginia. Nice try though.
Also know a guy at compass who comfirmed this.
08-29-2008, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Inbluskyz
...and whose fault is that?
08-29-2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
Why are suggesting that Compass pilots are intentionally undercutting you? Your management created Compass. Then your union approved it. Anyone who came to Compass didn't do it as a personal attack to Northwest Pilots. So get over it. Fortunately my personal experiences with most 9 and bus drivers have been pleasant. However when it comes to a message board, its easy to type ridiculous attacks and go hide in your living room.
08-29-2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
as well as the pilots who are lined out the door to fly a shiny new 70+ seater for peanuts.
08-29-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast
Actually, our 170/175 captains make more and max out higher than USAirways' 190 pilots. But thanks for sounding like an idiot!
I would much rather fly the plane I do at mainline, but I have never had any say in the matter. And it has been mainline pilots who have voted to let these planes be flown by outsourced labor. You can hate the situation, but at least put the blame where it belongs.
I would much rather fly the plane I do at mainline, but I have never had any say in the matter. And it has been mainline pilots who have voted to let these planes be flown by outsourced labor. You can hate the situation, but at least put the blame where it belongs.
Can you say that you make more than a JetBlue E190 CA(at 12 year longenvity NO), or a DAL E190 CA? What about(they don't have the planes, but the have the pay)A mainline pilot also has the opportunity to move to larger airplanes to make more money. You can't say the same.
I love the way some regional pilots try to justify flying these airplanes by blaming it on mainline pilots. You accepted the job flying outsourced labor. I refused to apply to a company that had anything larger than 50 seats. If you were there before the planes came, nothing forced you to go to the larger airplane. Don't blame it all on the mainline pilots. The fault is shared by all.
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