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Old 03-28-2015 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
You're not. I'm not sure how much clearer they could be on that.
I think a few are so new they still don't know how to use flica.
Old 03-28-2015 | 02:00 PM
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How are you supposed to bid for CA if you don't have the hours? How does that work?
Old 03-28-2015 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil
I think a few are so new they still don't know how to use flica.
They know enough to be able to put a bid in for CA. They know enough how to change their bid.
Old 03-28-2015 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
They know enough to be able to put a bid in for CA. They know enough how to change their bid.
From when they put it in as a new hire and never took it out once they got their base of choice in training? I'm not saying it's right but I can see how it can happen.
Old 03-28-2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil
From when they put it in as a new hire and never took it out once they got their base of choice in training? I'm not saying it's right but I can see how it can happen.
The company and ALPA have both stated multiple times not to bid upgrade until you meet the minimums.

At this point they just should block all FO's until they tell the company they meet the minimums. Then the pilot will be unlocked, and if they lied, it's completely on them. Maybe allow a 20 hour buffer for one month out. Some of these class dates are less than 30 days out and it is possibly to think you will get the time and then fly less than 20 hours.

They could raise the minimums to 1050 SIC hours and say you can bid it as long as you are within 50.
Old 03-28-2015 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil
I think a few are so new they still don't know how to use flica.
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
How are you supposed to bid for CA if you don't have the hours? How does that work?
I think this point is pretty much proved...
Old 03-28-2015 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
The company and ALPA have both stated multiple times not to bid upgrade until you meet the minimums.

At this point they just should block all FO's until they tell the company they meet the minimums. Then the pilot will be unlocked, and if they lied, it's completely on them. Maybe allow a 20 hour buffer for one month out. Some of these class dates are less than 30 days out and it is possibly to think you will get the time and then fly less than 20 hours.

They could raise the minimums to 1050 SIC hours and say you can bid it as long as you are within 50.
i thought with the new thing they were running you had to be within 75 hours of it. They give you 75 hours of credit for the month leading up to the class.
Old 03-28-2015 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
i thought with the new thing they were running you had to be within 75 hours of it. They give you 75 hours of credit for the month leading up to the class.
Two things. The company is contributing to this problem if they are allowing that. 75 block hours is not a guarantee. 1000 hours is the FAA minimum. They should just set their minimum to be within 20 hours a month out. Second, pilots that bid for it and then don't get the time, are asking for a crap schedule when the company gets to build them whatever fits their needs. For those thinking it will somehow work out if no one notices they have less than 1000, what in the world are you thinking?

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Old 03-28-2015 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Two things. The company is contributing to this problem if they are allowing that. 75 block hours is not a guarantee. 1000 hours is the FAA minimum. They should just set their minimum to be within 20 hours a month out. Second, pilots that bid for it and then don't get the time, are asking for a crap schedule when the company gets to build them whatever fits their needs. For those thinking it will somehow work out if no one notices they have less than 1000, what in the world are you thinking?
How about if you disregard company and union emails and bid upgrade without meeting minimums you are blocked from rebidding upgrade for 6 months after that.
Bet you get fewer "accidental" bids then!
Old 03-29-2015 | 02:27 PM
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