Right, but couldn't RAH just lease the planes or sell them off to whoever they want? Similar to how you can sell a car prior to paying it off, the purchaser would pick up payments.

Delta doesn't just have the ability to give the planes to who they want, unless they took over the payments.

 

1) I heard Delta was the underwriter on the airplanes.

2) RAH doesn't own the airplane, the bank does. Just like when you buy or lease a car, you may be the principal operator but the bank holds the title. No one pays cash for new airplanes anymore.

 

Does anybody know an easy/trustworthy way to look up AA flight loads other than the "oh so cute" MyID90 smiley faces?


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Honest question and I know it may sound crazy. Would you think it would be crazy to leave AWAC (2.5 years 90 from upgrade) for Compass? I currently commute from DSM to DCA.

I have 1700hrs 121 time. I know your not hiring DEC, but what would Compass be like for someone with my experience?

We have hardly upgraded anyone this year and word is were parking some old ones (4-5 planes) starting January. Lovely. This combined with a definite end to AA flying Feb 2018 (as of now) has me less than thrilled. Also completely over the East coast/NE flying. We literally don't go west of MEM.

I am a senior FO and get great schedules and we do have a good contract/benefits, so part of me thinks it's completely nuts to leave. However I'm really burnt out doing the same 10-12 cities and 8 overnights. For serving 70 cities it's petty crazy how little variety you see.

I don't know. Any thoughts? Thank you

 

What better way to pay for that new contract?

In all seriousness though. Delta is suing RAH in order to secure the airplanes in a settlement. They've done this before. They will get the entire Shuttle America fleet and give it to TSH. The 145s going to TSA and the 175s going to Compass.

Delta gets away from a toxic partner and Republic gets relief in terms of staffing

Clean.

 

Leaving a place you have gotten use to for the last 2.5 years is a tough decision.
Upgrades have slowed down, they are doing 14 a month now. All the by passed FO's are reaching their 1000 121 slowly so no one can predict how quick your upgrade will be. Last upgrade award had April hires in it.
If new flying/planes come to Compass then it will go crazy, like 30 upgrade classes again.
So its a gamble on your part, if can put up with reserve for a little and may be 1.5 year upgrade (worst case scenario) then pull the trigger.

 

How long is taking FOs to get SEA?

 

If RAH can't staff their airplanes, to meet their CPA requirements with their mainline partners, they won't get paid the money to make their payments of their planes.

In that case, it won't be up to RAH, it is up to their mainline partners on how they agree to proceed. They can file bankruptcy, but that doesn't prevent the lessor from repossessing the planes and giving them to an airline their mainline partners will use to staff them. Bankruptcy also doesn't prevent their mainline partners from cancelling their CPAs with RAH, hence putting RAH in a situation where they have no money to pay their lessors.

 

I personally wouldn't think it would be worth it, you'll have a lot more people in front of you trying to upgrade. The flow is finished and I think we're just about the numbers we need for the AA airplanes. Upgrades are going to slow down to whatever attrition becomes.

While we don't have rumors of loosing airplanes I wouldn't want to go on the back of a list, loose seniority to commute to LA.

 

agreed. 1st year pay here is simply ridiculous and its literally not possible to live without at least a 2nd if not a 3rd job. the fact of the matter is you will never make as an FO here what you make at awac until you upgrade. so unless you have a big nest egg saved up that you dont care about blowing through and getting $650-$800 semi monthly paychecks, id stay put if i were you. Not to mention lax is already planned at 250 fo's so your seniority wont be great and may take awhile to improve. just my friendly advice, pm me if youd like