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09-09-2017 | 08:30 AM
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At the regional level I'd say that's true. However, I know several FAs at the majors that are making regional Captain salary in their late 30s and bidding half the month off. Granted,they have upwards of 12-15 years seniority though.
09-09-2017 | 08:56 AM
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This made me laugh....it was entered for a Darwin award.
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09-09-2017 | 09:53 AM
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A. They were climbing, we're talking about descending.
B. We are obviously joking and having a bit of fun to lighten this thread up a bit, but way to kill it
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B. We are obviously joking and having a bit of fun to lighten this thread up a bit, but way to kill it
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09-09-2017 | 12:24 PM
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In all seriousness though, the training department or on IOE training, they must teach full use of the speed brakes...all the time. Slow 10 knots... use full speed brakes. Descend to 3000' 20 miles from the marker... use full speed brakes and FLCH. People need to take it easy with those. Shakes the heck out of the plane and most of the time, unnecessary.
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09-09-2017 | 01:47 PM
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In all seriousness though, the training department or on IOE training, they must teach full use of the speed brakes...all the time. Slow 10 knots... use full speed brakes. Descend to 3000' 20 miles from the marker... use full speed brakes and FLCH. People need to take it easy with those. Shakes the heck out of the plane and most of the time, unnecessary.
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09-09-2017 | 02:02 PM
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https://youtu.be/5-knyUBbpgI?t=1m50s
09-09-2017 | 02:49 PM
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That's why I put the gear down instead of giving up on skill/planning and using the speed brakes.
https://youtu.be/5-knyUBbpgI?t=1m50s
https://youtu.be/5-knyUBbpgI?t=1m50s
09-09-2017 | 02:50 PM
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That's why I put the gear down instead of giving up on skill/planning and using the speed brakes.
https://youtu.be/5-knyUBbpgI?t=1m50s
https://youtu.be/5-knyUBbpgI?t=1m50s
Goodness gracious, wasn't trying to start a mindless speedbrake argument....
sorry but this statement is idiotic "instead of giving up on skill/planning and using the speed brakes." The speedbrake is a tool of the airplane, it was put there for a reason, knowing how to use it is part of planning, just like using the gear. Now I understand not flying around all the time with the brakes out just like you wouldn't with the gear, but I get sick and tired of hearing about people getting their hands slapped by speedbrake nazzis who think their method is superior to all. Fly it how you want and back off.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
09-09-2017 | 03:29 PM
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I agree for the most part, but the "we didn't crash and didn't get violated, so it's all good" attitude continues the decline of airmanship. Asked to slow to 20 knots in a descent on an RNAV...of course you'll probably need the boards. Asked to slow 20 knots while getting vectors off the arrival, there's no reason for FLCH or boards. It's not elegant. It's not efficient. I'll say something.
Fly it how you want, as long as it makes sense and you can explain why you're doing whatever it is you're doing.
Fly it how you want, as long as it makes sense and you can explain why you're doing whatever it is you're doing.
09-09-2017 | 04:18 PM
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Goodness gracious, wasn't trying to start a mindless speedbrake argument.... sorry but this statement is idiotic "instead of giving up on skill/planning and using the speed brakes." The speedbrake is a tool of the airplane, it was put there for a reason, knowing how to use it is part of planning, just like using the gear. Now I understand not flying around all the time with the brakes out just like you wouldn't with the gear, but I get sick and tired of hearing about people getting their hands slapped by speedbrake nazzis who think their method is superior to all. Fly it how you want and back off.
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sorry but this statement is idiotic "instead of giving up on skill/planning and using the speed brakes." The speedbrake is a tool of the airplane, it was put there for a reason, knowing how to use it is part of planning, just like using the gear. Now I understand not flying around all the time with the brakes out just like you wouldn't with the gear, but I get sick and tired of hearing about people getting their hands slapped by speedbrake nazzis who think their method is superior to all. Fly it how you want and back off.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Im pretty sure the post you quoted was sarcasm as the link attached was a "livin the dream" video
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