Compass Updates - Saga Continues
10-10-2017 | 04:14 PM
#8241
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From: E175 FO
I was pretty flabbergasted as well when I read that. If you want some friend bonding time, there's plenty of ways to do that outside of the cockpit and not at the expense of your junior peers.
10-10-2017 | 04:28 PM
#8242
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I mentioned that"fly with my friend" thing to my fo an hour ago. What I got was the rolliest of eye rolls I've seen from anyone who isn't a 12 year old girl.
What a ridiculous, short sighted, nimble minded, toad sucking reason for a captain to pick up a fo open time trip.
What a ridiculous, short sighted, nimble minded, toad sucking reason for a captain to pick up a fo open time trip.
If you want to fly so badly with someone, go rent a 172 or something. Then you can bro it up that much without needing to worry about it ending up on a CVR. And if you're a CFI then both of you can log PIC time!
10-10-2017 | 04:33 PM
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I mentioned that"fly with my friend" thing to my fo an hour ago. What I got was the rolliest of eye rolls I've seen from anyone who isn't a 12 year old girl.
What a ridiculous, short sighted, nimble minded, toad sucking reason for a captain to pick up a fo open time trip.
What a ridiculous, short sighted, nimble minded, toad sucking reason for a captain to pick up a fo open time trip.
Meaning that it’s ok to get right seat qualified to fly with his friend? Or was ur fo rolling his eyes at the fact that people shouldn’t fly right seat for that?
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10-10-2017 | 04:36 PM
#8244
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I have my 1000 TPIC so I'm not really worried about what column I'm filling in my logbook.
10-10-2017 | 04:37 PM
#8245
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Welp, here we go. Can't get Americans to fly for pennies on the dollar, start hiring from outside the country. This industry is trying anything and everything it can do except the one thing it needs to. delta et al, the time has come to PAY UP!
http://www.compassairline.com/career...a-Holders.aspx
http://www.compassairline.com/career...a-Holders.aspx
10-10-2017 | 04:40 PM
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Wow I don’t agree with this at all. I want more money just as much as you and anyone else but not at the expense of taking flight time/pay away from FOs who already don’t get enough flight time and pay, minus the brand new guys with the bonus. SMH 🤦*♂️
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10-10-2017 | 04:51 PM
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Your right. I also never said they would be going to Envoy if they went anywhere else... they will go wherever AA decides to put them, whether that is still at Compass or moved to Envoy, Republic or SkyWest.
10-10-2017 | 05:03 PM
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Wow I don’t agree with this at all. I want more money just as much as you and anyone else but not at the expense of taking flight time/pay away from FOs who already don’t get enough flight time and pay, minus the brand new guys with the bonus. SMH 🤦*♂️
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If they're on reserve and worried about building time so they can upgrade they will have plenty of time to build time while they what their turn on the seniority list.
If they were trying to fly more to make money the pay raise now makes it so 75 hours now pays what 85 used to - take that money and enjoy some days off for once.
If you want to split hairs, the real people hurting first officers are other first officers bypassing upgrade so they don't have to sit reserve as a captain. Report their names to the union.
10-10-2017 | 05:12 PM
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I think you are forgetting that a line holding FO can bid to fly more if they wish.
If they're on reserve and worried about building time so they can upgrade they will have plenty of time to build time while they what their turn on the seniority list.
If they were trying to fly more to make money the pay raise now makes it so 75 hours now pays what 85 used to - take that money and enjoy some days off for once.
If you want to split hairs, the real people hurting first officers are other first officers bypassing upgrade so they don't have to sit reserve as a captain. Report their names to the union.
If they're on reserve and worried about building time so they can upgrade they will have plenty of time to build time while they what their turn on the seniority list.
If they were trying to fly more to make money the pay raise now makes it so 75 hours now pays what 85 used to - take that money and enjoy some days off for once.
If you want to split hairs, the real people hurting first officers are other first officers bypassing upgrade so they don't have to sit reserve as a captain. Report their names to the union.
Agree to disagree. How does FOs bypassing hurt other FOs? Not sure I follow your logic here
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10-10-2017 | 05:22 PM
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From: MEC Chairman, Snack Basket Committee
First of all, 1000TPIC is not a magic number or else you and several other guys wouldn't be here still (assuming you have apps out)..so keep flying (left seat), and second, if you want more money go seat support or be a slip and do some doubles. Right seat flying is the Wrong way to go about it... see what I just did there?? 
Seriously, we need to stick together on this. And there is still open time on the CA side, right seat flying is not necessary -- to put it nicely.
Seriously, we need to stick together on this. And there is still open time on the CA side, right seat flying is not necessary -- to put it nicely.
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